Massive earthquake and tsunamis hit Japan

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Right, so it would seem that there's still other rescue teams in Japan (ie. read the NZ team is still there), so how come they've not given up yet but the UK and US teams have?

I'm still suspicious as to explanation given for UK/US withdrawal

 

[Crispy]

I think that's all the nuke-related posts moved now. There might be some odd skips and jumps where people were mixing up the topics in their posts, but the conversation was mostly separate.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I think that's all the nuke-related posts moved now. There might be some odd skips and jumps where people were mixing up the topics in their posts, but the conversation was mostly separate.

You did a grand job and nuclear geeks have all moved to the other thread

 

[Barking_Mad]

Good work Crispy

 

[Barking_Mad]

Reuters:

1306: The total number of dead and missing, as reported by Japanese broadcaster NHK, now stands at more than 20,000.

The shore near Souma City, Fukushima Prefecture, before and after the tsunami.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Dutch giving their citizens in Japan iodine pills

AMSTERDAM (Dow Jones)--The Dutch embassy in Japan bought iodine pills to give to its around 1,000 citizens still in the country, the Dutch Foreign Ministry said Friday.

The iodine pills prevent the human thyroid gland from absorbing any more of the radioactive material.

The Dutch embassy will supply pills primarily to its citizens living next to the Fukushima nuclear power plant, the Tohoku area and the Japanese capital Tokyo, the ministry said.

Russians seem to be stocking up on them as well. Also heard they're avoiding fish from Japan.

 

[elbows]

Dutch giving their citizens in Japan iodine pills

Russians seem to be stocking up on them as well. Also heard they're avoiding fish from Japan.

I dont think the nuclear thread is only for the real geeky stuff, would think what you have posted here is more appropriate to that thread too.

 

[xes]

Jesus fuck, the thread shrunk!

Fair play Crispy

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I dont think the nuclear thread is only for the real geeky stuff, would think what you have posted here is more appropriate to that thread too.

Yes, I did wonder which thread to put it in, but I thought as there aren't any micro or milli numbers involved, the geeks might not be interested

 

[elbows]

Republicans didnt save the people of New Orleans did they now.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I'm not really sure what Peter's point is but

For example, if the Japanese authorities had prohibited the building of towns, villages and houses in low lying coastal land, especially where no massive sea-walls or dams to hold back any tsunami have been constructed to defend the land, then many lives could have been saved.

 

[bi0boy]

Gibberish

Can't you start your own loony thread instead of polluting this one?

 

[elbows]

I have no prior knowledge about this stuff with which to be able to judge the likely accuracy of this story, but here is what I found to be a fascinating explanation as to what role the organised crime gangs of Japan have ben playing in the aftermath of this great horror:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-...japanese-yakuza-aid-earthquake-relief-efforts

 

[quimcunx]

I have no prior knowledge about this stuff with which to be able to judge the likely accuracy of this story, but here is what I found to be a fascinating explanation as to what role the organised crime gangs of Japan have ben playing in the aftermath of this great horror:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-...japanese-yakuza-aid-earthquake-relief-efforts

That was indeed interesting. Didn't Capone's lot have soup kitchens? As when Barclays sponsor bikes or Nike sponsor school playing fields or Western govts sponsor popular uprisings I'm sure they are mostly just looking after their own interests. You need to feed a cow if you want to milk it.

 

[frogwoman]

I just find it so sad looking at all those pictures of old people trying to find their houses I saw a report saying that they are running low on food and water in the shelters, must be fucking awful to wake up every day and realsie that you are still there

 

[Kizmet]

That was indeed interesting. Didn't Capone's lot have soup kitchens? As when Barclays sponsor bikes or Nike sponsor school playing fields or Western govts sponsor popular uprisings I'm sure they are mostly just looking after their own interests. You need to feed a cow if you want to milk it.

I'm sure even gangsters have families and neighbourhoods.

 

[Barking_Mad]

That was indeed interesting. Didn't Capone's lot have soup kitchens? As when Barclays sponsor bikes or Nike sponsor school playing fields or Western govts sponsor popular uprisings I'm sure they are mostly just looking after their own interests. You need to feed a cow if you want to milk it.

this bit made me LOL

A bit of background: Japan has 80,000 members belonging to these criminal organizations, which the police label shiteiboryokudan or literally “designated violent groups”; membership is not illegal although the police regulate their activities, much the way the SEC regulates Goldman Sachs.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

On a BBC article about the lack of looting in Japan (although there has been looting), the Yakuza get a mention

His other theories why there isn't any looting in Japan include the police presence and organised crime. "Police aren't the only ones on patrol since the earthquake hit," he says. "Members of Yakuza, Japan's organised crime syndicate, have been enforcing order

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

The Man who Survived Two Tsunamis

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/the-man-who-survived-two-tsunamis-i-feel-as-if-my-family-is-being-chased-2246330.html

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Just on the phone to Tokyo. There was a massive aftershock a second ago (while my wife was talking) that sacred the bejesus out of everyone. Not nice to hear everyone screaming.
Everyone still seems to believe there is nothing to worry about.

 

[miss minnie]

Just on the phone to Tokyo. There was a massive aftershock a second ago (while my wife was talking) that sacred the bejesus out of everyone. Not nice to hear everyone screaming.
Everyone still seems to believe there is nothing to worry about.

6.1 according to W7VOA Steve Herman

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

That's pretty big for an aftershock. They have all been about though haven't they?

 

[miss minnie]

Mostly between 5 and 6. Hundreds of them. Over a week now? Must feel like living on a boat.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Talking to my niece. She had to stay at school overnight on the day of the big one. They had bed and blankets enough for the whole school. Pretty well prepared.
What is the general advice on going at the moment. Probably don't go I suppose. Its just odd because whenever we hear or speak to someone in Tokyo it doesn't seem to be such a big deal.

 

[story]

I suppose it's a bit like after 7/7, or during the IRA bombing campaign in the 70s, and American friends and family were asking "Is it safe to visit?" and I was saying "Don't be daft! Of course it's safe!"

Not comparable in terms of actual risk perhaps, but maybe comparable in terms of perceived risk? I mean you can get used to anything if it's part of your daily environment.

I think that considerations of my presence as a drain on scanty local resources would also play a part in my decision in a case like this.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I think that considerations of my presence as a drain on scanty local resources would also play a part in my decision in a case like this.

Doesn't seem to be much of an issue according to my in laws. So far I heard an american friend had trouble getting bread (which isn't majorly popular in Japan at the best of times) and a Japanese friend who had to walk a little further to get milk.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

If it was just me I don't think I would be that bothered but I have to take my 3 year old daughter.

 

[Kizmet]

could you get travel insurance?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

could you get travel insurance?

As mentioned earlier, may be issues if he's traveled against FCO advice

 

[quimcunx]

Was this a planned trip? Can you delay for a month or two easily? They have to be there so have to tell themselves it will be ok. Is your worry more quakes or radiation?