Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 vanishes without trace

[2hats]

But if it is the real thing, then that would suggest the pilot went massively off course. In fact way back beyond where he started. South rather than north. Which would then beg the question why?

Even if this is the debris field and leads to the FDR/CVR and the remains of the cockpit (which they can then DNA test to establish who was flying it), and assuming the FDR wasn't purposefully disabled (the CVR could be 2 hours of wind noise with the odd instrumentation chime) there's going to be months (maybe years) of speculation until something can be reconstructed by accident investigators.

 

[skyscraper101]

 

[skyscraper101]

Also just breaking...

 

[2hats]

The area is slightly SE of the predicted search box:

 

[wiskey]

Did the Greek boat that went looking for debris find anything?

 

[weltweit]

I don't think we should be too certain about this yet:

Australia is investigating two objects seen on satellite images that could potentially be linked to the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, officials say.

Planes and ships from Australia, New Zealand and the US were heading to the area 2,500km (1,550 miles) south-west of Perth to search for the objects.

The largest appeared to be 24m in size, maritime authorities said, but warned they could be unrelated to the plane.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26659951

 

[2hats]

Did the Greek boat that went looking for debris find anything?

No reports. There were quite a number of other ships in that particular area as well at the time.

 

[2hats]

 

[gabi]

i dont think Abbot would address parliament about this if he wasn't fairly sure it was the plane

 

[weltweit]

i dont think Abbot would address parliament about this if he wasn't fairly sure it was the plane

Could be, I just think it is worth waiting for confirmation.

 

[gabi]

why the fuck would it be heading for australia... this whole thing is insane

 

[2hats]

why the fuck would it be heading for australia... this whole thing is insane

If this is debris from the plane, the evidence (thus far) suggests it wasn't heading for Australia (otherwise it'd be around 1000km WNW of Cape Range).

 

[gabi]

So, headed for the South Pole?

 

[barney_pig]

Where all the buses are

 

[2hats]

ABC (US) reports radar hits of "significant size," indicating something lurking below the water's surface.

 

[Indeliblelink]

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yhsswgva7dso90m/c3RchRtULZ#lh:null-DIGO_00718_01_14.jpg

 

[2hats]

e2a: same image as above so removed

2nd e2a: might as well inject some content - the images were taken over 4 days ago and the extent of the debris field (if that is what it is) would clearly be in excess of 100km at that time.

 

[Barking_Mad]

It's been *suggested* that the image above is a large part of the tail of the plane.

 

[gentlegreen]

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[Mab]

Similar to Air France (if the "debri's" are even part the plane) two years + to find anything. Nature is always stronger than "man's technology.

 

[2hats]

It's been *suggested* that the image above is a large part of the tail of the plane.

That would appear to depend on the image interpreters getting the scale wrong. The 777 vertical stabiliser is about 11m in length from the point it meets the fuselage (where it would be more likely to separate cf AF447). Even with the adjacent tail of the fuselage attached we are talking about 16m.

 

[Dogsauce]

You have to wonder what other things they might find along the way. There's probably still crap floating around from the 2004 & Japanese quake tsunamis ( though wrong ocean for the latter).

 

[T & P]

If true, the route chosen is indeed puzzling. Unless whoever was in control had something against penguins, there is absolutely nothing to land on, or crash against, in that direction. Not unless they were planning to use Antarctic landing strip, which I very much doubt a 777 would be able to achieve in one piece.

And if it was suicide, why let the plane fly that far? It would seem more likely that for the last few hours nobody was in control.

 

[Dogsauce]

If this is confirmed as wreckage from the flight I'm suspecting the 'ghost plane' scenario, until the fuel ran out. Imagine the horror if some misfortune hit the flight staff and nobody on board could pilot the plane or figure out how to contact the outside world, and it just kept on flying. Nasty.

 

[mauvais]

If this is confirmed as wreckage from the flight I'm suspecting the 'ghost plane' scenario, until the fuel ran out. Imagine the horror if some misfortune hit the flight staff and nobody on board could pilot the plane or figure out how to contact the outside world, and it just kept on flying. Nasty.

That's what happened to Helios 522, which is a really tragic tale. Lost cabin pressure and so everyone passed out from hypoxia, except apparently two cabin crew, one of whom was a private pilot. He was locked out of the cockpit until the fuel ran out, power ran out and the door unlocked, but without fuel it was too late to control the plane. He probably didn't have a chance anyway without ATP experience, but a horrible story nonetheless.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

This article came out a couple of years ago with explanations as to why he thinks it'll be found in the Indian Ocean, why there was a sharp turn and why the transponders were switched off. It's written by an experienced pilot and basically cites a slow burning fire.

Starndard procedure is apparently to isolate the fire which would explain transponders being switched off (as with Helios), and sharp turn would indicate emergency landing attempt at Pulau Langkawi.


http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

 

[Lazy Llama]

Starndard procedure is apparently to isolate the fire which would explain transponders being switched off (as with Helios), and sharp turn would indicate emergency landing attempt at Pulau Langkawi.


http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Already discussed here.

His assertion that it would be pointless looking anywhere other than due West is going to look pretty silly if the Australian debris turns out to be correct.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Did it do the BBC news theme? Mine does that. It's takes you by surprise!

Yep, only ever had it once before

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Starndard procedure is apparently to isolate the fire which would explain transponders being switched off (as with Helios), and sharp turn would indicate emergency landing attempt at Pulau Langkawi.


http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

I said ages ago he could have been heading for Langkawi or Penang. Seems that's not the case though

 

[Indeliblelink]

cites a slow burning fire.

Could the plane climbing to an unusually high altitude be some attempt to put a fire out by depriving it of oxygen? Then going low before passengers died where atmsopheric oxygen would be high enough for them to breathe .