Mad Paul Mason

[elbows]

It’s been another busy few days for our favourite public intellectual. Over the weekend he published a huge (largely ignored) analysis of a converging red-brown alliance, in the course of which, he again smears large sections of the left.

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So thats his version of Goatse.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

That diagram is bonkers. And totally misses some of the main actual red-brown crossover points - love of police, pro-militarism and 'family values'.

Those in the Mason diagram are those who disagree with him. The 'pro Putin left' smear is those who point out the limits of Mason's policy of cheerleading NATO, the 'pro-Brexit left' is the unions and lexit supporters who he despises, along with those who've pulled Mason up about his drift into pro-Starmer grifting (the anti-liberals and the anti identity politics group). The anti semites appear to be those in the Labour Party who attack Mason for his role in doing Corbyn in.

 

[belboid]

It’s been another busy few days for our favourite public intellectual. Over the weekend he published a huge (largely ignored) analysis of a converging red-brown alliance, in the course of which, he again smears large sections of the left.

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Now, it’s rumoured he wants to be the Labour PPC in Islington running against Jezza presumably:

I misread Confusionism as Confucianism. Which was confusing. Which, in turn, must mean Comrade Mason is at war with himself.

 

[belboid]

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[Wilf]

I misread Confusionism as Confucianism. Which was confusing. Which, in turn, must mean Comrade Mason is at war with himself.

Looks like the list was hastily put together. A Masonic Bodge if you like.

 

[ska invita]

I thought confusionism was an interesting term i hadn't heard before...i wonder if it means Spiked types. Works for them

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I thought confusianism was an interesting term i hadn't heard before...i wonder if it means Spiked types. Works for them

According to Mason ‘the confusionists, a differential hostility to liberalism, Biden and the US Democrats, including to AOC and Bernie Sanders, which in the UK translates into the assertion that Labour and the Conservative party are “the same”.

So, in the UK sense, basically most of us on here

 

[ska invita]

According to Mason ‘the confusionists, a differential hostility to liberalism, Biden and the US Democrats, including to AOC and Bernie Sanders, which in the UK translates into the assertion that Labour and the Conservative party are “the same”.

So, in the UK sense, basically most of us on here

 

[The39thStep]

Its later than we think

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Its later than we think

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That exchange went quite badly wrong for Paul.

Paul's attempt to cast himself as the heir to Orwell, only to be reminded that Orwell strongly condemned those falsely trying to theorise a red-brown convergance, was a particuarly blow I felt.

As was the reminder that he's allegedly written a history of fascism without actually understanding it.

 

[hitmouse]

According to Mason ‘the confusionists, a differential hostility to liberalism, Biden and the US Democrats, including to AOC and Bernie Sanders, which in the UK translates into the assertion that Labour and the Conservative party are “the same”.

So, in the UK sense, basically most of us on here

Funnily enough, while I'm not the biggest fan of AOC or Sanders, I do reckon that painting them as basically the same as Starmer is quite confusing in its own right.

Think the term confusionism comes from the French, it's down now but there was a website called confusionnisme.info for ages (archived version here) that gave a bit more of a coherent definition. Although googling it, I did also learn about this bloke, who is presumably blissfully unaware of his position on Mason's graphs:

 

[Wilf]

Its later than we think

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Glad he's pulled me up on that. Didn't realise I was undergoing a dialectical transition into right anti-capitalism, thought it was just a build up of ear wax.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Didn't realise I was undergoing a dialectical transition into right anti-capitalism, .

Everyone is these days...

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I guess this obssessing over mad Stalinists plays quite well with centrist "horse shoe theory" types? Is that the game here?

Mason vs Corbyn in Islington North would bring out that absolute worst people from all facets of the UK left and I can't decide if that would be brilliant or terrible. (Probably both, dialectics innit.)

 

[Sue]

I guess this obssessing over mad Stalinists plays quite well with centrist "horse shoe theory" types? Is that the game here?

Mason vs Corbyn in Islington North would bring out that absolute worst people from all facets of the UK left and I can't decide if that would be brilliant or terrible. (Probably both, dialectics innit.)

I bet there'd be a few others in play too -- like whoever those Communists are who stand in various places round here -- just to add to the drama.

 

[Serge Forward]

Its later than we think

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What is the matter with this fool?

 

[teqniq]

Completely deranged imo.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Its later than we think

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It’s time he really found another hobby and give the bottle a rest.

 

[splonkydoo]

What is the matter with this fool?

latest batch of spice dropped

 

[The39thStep]

I come to praise Caesar not to bury him

 

[nogojones]

He's gone full Tonto on Wallace!

 

[steeplejack]

next week- Paul Mason on An Armoured Train for All : The Revolutionary Socialist Milieu of Ben Wallace

 

[Wilf]

next week- Paul Mason on An Armoured Train for All : The Revolutionary Socialist Milieu of Ben Wallace

Ben Wallace: sealed train or trained seal?

 

[Wilf]

Ben Wallace: sealed train or trained seal?

I'd better own up, that was nicked from Martin Rowson.

 

[The39thStep]

Must come as a surprise to Marx that you could have communism historically before capitalism but there you go

 

[belboid]

Must come as a surprise to Marx that you could have communism historically before capitalism but there you go

Primitive communism, mutual aid within the communes of the middle ages, utopian communism, the Mazdaks, there were loads of them.

(the book will still be shit tho)

 

[The39thStep]

Primitive communism, mutual aid within the communes of the middle ages, utopian communism, the Mazdaks, there were loads of them.

(the book will still be shit tho)

Yes I should have been more explicit.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

He's been oddly quiet on the Labour reshuffle, which is odd as he normally provides a running commentary on matters using his unique "Kier Starmer is advancing social democracy from a marxist viewpoint' formulaton.

 

[ska invita]

Primitive communism, mutual aid within the communes of the middle ages, utopian communism, the Mazdaks, there were loads of them.

(the book will still be shit tho)

Starmer-Reevism....etc

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Ah, I knew he wouldn’t let me down….