But let's not avoid the point:
Anarchism <<< >>> The RMT
Anarchism <<< >>> The RMT
London Anarchist Bookfair 2022
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Has anyone on here who is in an organisation successfully applied or know someone who has?
Thora
Differently Ethical
Everyone I disagree with is a FASCIST!!!
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Not sure this is a very fruitful or relevant line of discussion to go down, but since it's a question to me...
There's a whole tradition/perspective in anarchist and anti-State/ultra left communism that's highly critical of unions, so depending on the remit of an anarchist event, then yes I think it could be entirely fair (justifiable and logical) to exclude unions. (The idea that my union (GMB) is doing anything to advance to cause of liberatory politics I find quite funny having had some engagement with them recently btw.)
And that's without even looking too much into your vague 'advance the cause of the working class'. I mean any number of small Leninist groups, and also the Labour Party, would say that's their politics too, but I don't think it would be a shock for them not to get a stall at any anarchist bookfair either.
Don't think this is too useful though thb. Do think a stall or talk rejection should be explained. Also think the dynamic between what a person does, and how much that reflects and should impact any wider collective project they're involved in can be tricky as well.
I'll let you know next week!
Maybe we could club together and buy the bookfair 2 ink stamps to help with all this? One that says 'NOT ANARCHIST' and one that says 'NOT OUR KIND OF ANARCHIST'. It would make all the rejections much clearer.
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hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Is JSO something to do with Jewish Socialists? Did a quick google and first result was:
JSO Productions l The wedding, party and event organisers
JSO are a leading event organising company.
www.jso.co.uk
ska invita
back on the other side
just stop oilIs JSO something to do with Jewish Socialists? Did a quick google and first result was:
I definitely agree they should be brought into the organising group, would definitely liven things up a bit then.JSO Productions l The wedding, party and event organisers
JSO are a leading event organising company.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I think it did used to be a bit more like that (RMT excepted), maybe no coincidence it did used to be a bit more lively then maybe? Reflection on the closing down/withdrawing of lots of politics into smaller, more specialised and less connected scenes a bit more?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
O I C
An anarchist comrade of mine who is a member of the RMT told me that the RMT was founded during the syndicalist wave of the early part of the 20th century, so though not necessarily anarchist there does appear to be a possible link with anarchism. He was also telling me how the RMT is more based around the rank and file/ordinary workers compared to some other unions, wether this is really the case though who knows.
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Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
If only some entrepreneurial.fellow, maybe based in the North somewhere could start up a string of local working class bookfairs, with bookstalls, union stalls and Labour history stalls and talks.
Oh but the now defunct North East Anarchists are disliked by The North East Anarchist Group.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Best of luck in him applying for a bookstall then. Wrong sort of anarchist
I think you're misunderstanding my post, possibly deliberately, not that I for one second actually expect the likes of Mick Lynch to be at what passes for the london anarchist bookfair any time soon.
Athos
Well-Known Member
People aren't knocking anarchism or anarchists; they're knocking the group behind this event. The two aren't synonymous.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Terribly sorry, if you'd like to send me some recommendations to help me understand the anarchist movement I'd be very grateful. And lol at 'knock anarchism', criticising other branches of anarchism is the specialist subject of plenty of anarchists, from the early years of the movement onwards. And rightly so, political back and forth is important, even though it might seem just like slagging things off I think it can be useful to help figure things out.
Anyway, haven't you spent a bit of time criticising the anarchists behind this event anyway, the same as lots of us?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
I think that people should have to fill in an application form before they can post on this thread:
"I am applying to post on the London Anarchist Bookfair thread because I wish to (tick all that apply):
"I am applying to post on the London Anarchist Bookfair thread because I wish to (tick all that apply):
- have a go at anarchists in general
- have a go at the bookfair organisers
- have a go at anarchists who have been denied a stall at the bookfair
- have a go at the bookfair organisers and at the people who've been denied stalls, but for different reasons
- other, please expand..."
Carl Steele
Well-Known Member
- watch people squabble over stuff I know nothing about
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you don't need to apply to post on something you only want to read
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
- have a go
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Have a go at the easy-going people who are happy with a broad church and accept all applications based on comradely good faith and solidarity. The forgiving bastards.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I've always thought of it as a "scene" rather than a "movement" tbh
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
a milieu to give it its' formal designation
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Beat me to it! Or a swamp, depending on who you ask.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
...and you beat me to this
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