Basically Tory MPs think their party members are idiots.
they are tbf
Basically Tory MPs think their party members are idiots.
I'm sure Count Binface must have a suitable salad comradeIf Truss stands for her constituency at the next general election [doubtful] I hope someone dressed as a lettuce stands against her.
Lettuce hope so she wilt look incredibly stupidIf Truss stands for her constituency at the next general election [doubtful] I hope someone dressed as a lettuce stands against her.
boom boom tish tishLettuce hope so she wilt look incredibly stupid
Probably. If most of the new tory MPs get binned off next election the party will probably regroup more easily. Might lose some of the headbangers to the Reform party or whichever and get back some of those it purged whilst busy trying to neutralise UKIP by impersonating it. Boring.I doubt the tories will implode. They are likely to take a massive pounding at the next election, but they'll regroup. There aren't any alternative political movements that could take their place, and the UK's fptp electoral system favours inertia wrt political parties.
You're optimistic. More like December 2024.You're right about the first bit. It depends who wants to be/they want to, throw under a bus. At best they are looking at getting thrashed in May 2024 and probably ending their political career. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Sunak. God knows how much free coke they'll have to offer Johnson not to stand.
What they're hoping for is the big one with China so they can postpone the election for the durationYou're optimistic. More like December 2024.
Fingers crossed for a 1993 Canadian style collapse. I'd personally rather it be a 1989 Romanian style one, but what happened to the Canadian Tories suddenly seems possible, so I'd be happy with that.
There are many Conservative seats that seem like a much better fit for the Lib Dems than what the Tories have become, especially in the south. I can't see the Tories keeping a single seat in Scotland, and probably Wales too. If Westminster goes Labour as it already has in local terms, and Kensington returns to Labour, then there are only really two or three other seats in Greater London the Cons would hold. At that point, you can see a path opening up to seriously finish them off in their current format. However, you may be sadly right that we'll never be rid of them.Not really possible imo, in Canada in 1993 there were other parties to take up the slack, but I can’t see the LibDems or SNP hoovering up Tory votes.
why would they hopefully withdraw though, if they thought the members would choose them (and if they were mad enough to want the job in the first place)The indicative vote is so that the runner-up candidate hopefully withdraws. Not really about members.
because Tories are here to serve the nation and doing whats best for the general good is always firstmost in their mindwhy would they hopefully withdraw though, if they thought the members would choose them (and if they were mad enough to want the job in the first place)
Anyway it all makes it more likely to be Mourdant next doesn't it, if the MPs know they have to choose someone who the members don't actively hate.
That's it, that's her appeal, nobody hates her because nobody knows who she is.Don't know much about her.
That's it, that's her appeal, nobody hates her because nobody knows who she is.
Unless something very unexpected happens between now and Monday, there's only Sunak, Morduant and Wallace who have a chance of reaching the threshold. But I think there's also a good chance of only Sunak managing a hundred in the first round, in which case he's in without a voteAnyway it all makes it more likely to be Mourdant next doesn't it, if the MPs have to pick someone who the members don't actively hate.
Think you'll find many politically aware folk know who she is and many Scots already hate, she's made some damaging comments.That's it, that's her appeal, nobody hates her because nobody knows who she is.
i've just read this tweet a few times and still don't get it.
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If he hasn't done a typo, he's saying that they reckon that the membership (who love Johnson and just voted Truss in) will be like 'oh i'd better choose the one that the majority of MPs went for, because doing otherwise would be inherently unstable and unworkable obvs'. That is completely mad
The mad bit is the idea that the membership will get in line & choose whoever the MPs chose, instead of who they themselves like more. The idea that they'd do so in order to ensure that the PM can actually govern, that's the mad bit, why would they expect the membership to think like that.It's not that mad, as a Tory member I know said, the membership should never have a vote for the leader, at least whilst they are actually in government, there's only about 180k members, whereas millions voted for Tory MPs to represent them in parliament, and therefore should select their leader.