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The documentary did seem quite favourable to Stinson. His motivation wasn't what I was suspecting, though there was a bit of ego going on (but driven by a need to feel valued rather than be 'top dog') and they seemed to be behaving responsibly, at least on camera. The guys he caught all seemed a bit creepy and also a bit pathetic.

This sort of thing has to be a significant deterrent to nonces, though I suspect this programme might give them a heads-up on the trapper's methodology.

A potential stitch-up/evil prank that could be engineered would be to flirt with someone on a regular dating site pretending to be a 19yr old women or whatever, soliciting cock videos and so on, then use this info from an innocent party to respond to the nonce hunters, then arrange a date with the dating site dude at the 'capture house' at the time agreed by the hunters. Wouldn't stand up in court because of phone records etc., but could put an innocent person on Facebook for a while before it was sorted out.
 
One of the men used the excuse when confronted that he did not believe the girl he was about to meet was 12 due to all their previous communication online being on an 18+ website.
CPS decided not to prosecute. Beggars belief as all the evidence suggested otherwise.
 
Athos said:
Overall, I have very little sympathy for the men Stinson catches, and some admiration for his dedication and ingenuity.
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I have none whatsoever..ugh! I felt for Stinson at the end when he broke down and cried. He sounds as if he could be giving evidence of child abuse in children's homes to the police. Hope he does!
 
mystic pyjamas said:
One of the men used the excuse when confronted that he did not believe the girl he was about to meet was 12 due to all their previous communication online being on an 18+ website.
CPS decided not to prosecute. Beggars belief as all the evidence suggested otherwise.
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I thought he was the one after the 11 year autistic one?

He came up with that story pretty much the moment he was confronted and he stuck to it. All the other creeps pled guilty.
 
mystic pyjamas said:
Malice a forethought ?
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I think possibly the evidence gathered wouldn't stand up to a full on Crown Court going over, but if the nonces indicate at the magistrate's pre-hearing that they'll go guilty then the CPS will run with it. Pure speculation on my part though.
 
Dandred said:
Why so many nonces?

Only because they were nonced before?

If not, is part of it just natural? :confused:
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Natural is a loaded term in so many ways. Especially when it comes to cases which get within some kind of reasonably close proximity to the age of consent, since the legal age clearly varies per country. That makes it obvious that we are talking about what a particular society ends up deeming permissible at a point in time, which overlaps with but is not the same as most ideas about what something being 'natural' is. Many tedious circles can be gone round during discussions within this domain, so I tend to applaud those who want to focus more on the aspects of power, i.e. unequal power dynamics between people, and the opportunistic and systematic ways this stuff is exploited, rather than exactly what age people can be having sex at without it being 'unnatural'.

As for so many, there are so many millions of people in this country that even if I hear about thousands of sex offenders, I don't end up with shocking percentage or ratio statistics which boggle my mind about how many of these fiends exist.
 
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Citizen66 said:
A vigilante posing as a child and entrapping a copper posing as a child would make for an interesting case.
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Well children aren't really the target.
Unless the idea that some Japanese school girls came up spreads here lure some business man to a park with promises and meet him mob handed and armed and March him to the nearest atm
 
I have no idea as to the morality of hunting criminals and exposing them, too many issues to contemplate, but I kept thinking throughout the programme that this paedo-hunter has probably stopped at least a few children from being attacked, so that's a good thing in my book.

And maybe the whole subject needs an airing like this to bring in legislation to help the police bang-up more of these offenders.
 
Obnoxiousness said:
And maybe the whole subject needs an airing like this to bring in legislation to help the police bang-up more of these offenders.
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Its far from clear to me that more legislation would be the big difference maker. Resources, and will/impetus are probably more useful on that front. On other fronts, there is stuff like how well the states justice system and support mechanisms treat victims. And the relationship and levels of trust that communities have with the police. And the difficulties of discovering crimes where the victim may have been deliberately chosen because their life to that point leaves them vulnerable in ways including how many people in the world they trust to confide in, and any previous dealings with the law etc not having left a positive impression of dealing with the state in their mind.

Add in all the cases where a victim may not consider themselves a victim, at least not at the time. And societies general unease about where the boundaries of someones private or family life stand, beyond which many might decide is not their business to do anything other than gossip and speculate about it sporadically over the years. And issues surrounding 'being a grass'. And the sort of direction small groups may very towards when a rumour flickers onto the radar, for example, of a work colleague with a rumoured predilection for teenagers. 'if it were my daughter, I'd sort him out, but its not my business and we don't have solid proof'.

Given the nature of many of these problems, its not hard to imagine that there could be many answers if communities of people managed their affairs in a manner quite different to the present system. As usual with radical alternatives, there are numerous ways it could go wrong and be used as a tool of one sort of abuse or another itself, and numerous forces that would be opposed to it and all the other changes to power etc that would be required to live in such communities.
 
Athos said:
What a ridiculous thing to say. All vigilantes? All criminals?
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Yep.

And with regard to this particular thread: Stinson Hunter does a thousand times more harm than the paedophiles he professes to loathe.

In fact I would have a hard time coming up with an individual whose moral depravity approaches his. It is rendered the more contemptible for being dressed in moralistic garb.
 
phildwyer said:
Yep.

And with regard to this particular thread: Stinson Hunter does a thousand times more harm than the paedophiles he professes to loathe.

In fact I would have a hard time coming up with an individual whose moral depravity approaches his. It is rendered the more contemptible for being dressed in moralistic garb.
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Silly.
 
Athos said:
Silly.
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Nope.

He is building his career on the misery of others. He is exploiting vice and tragedy for his own benefit. What could be more despicable than that?

Furthermore, in the present deranged climate of opinion, there is no shortage of sickos who will imitate him. It's already happening.
 
phildwyer said:
Nope.

He is building his career on the misery of others. He is exploiting vice and tragedy for his own benefit. What could be more despicable than that?
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You could accuse an oncologist of building a career on the misery others - meaningless.

What could be more despicable than 'outing' child sex offenders? Rape and murder, say?
 
8ball said:
It comes with 20% discounted popcorn!

You'll have the shirt off me back, you lot! :mad:
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I'm going to need something portable so I can watch what he's up to on at least one more thread as well.

Have you got something like a deck chair with wheels, and some popcorn that comes in a container with an easily removable lid so I don't spill it? I realise there may be an extra charge for these features.
 
andysays said:
I'm going to need something portable so I can watch what he's up to on at least one more thread as well.

Have you got something like a deck chair with wheels, and some popcorn that comes in a container with an easily removable lid so I don't spill it? I realise there may be an extra charge for these features.
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That's it - you're barred, son. No relaxing cloth-based reclining structures or corny comestibles for you til you learn to respect your elders. :mad:
 
Athos said:
What makes you think the men that approached Stinson online thinking he was a child wouldn't approach other children for sex?
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He puts temptation in the way of people he knows to be vulnerable.

Hmm.... who else does that?

But anyway, that's not what I mean. What I mean is that he fosters a climate of sexualized sadism. He makes people feel that their sadistic impulses are acceptable--possibly even virtuous.

I honestly can't think of a worse crime than that.

Just read the responses to his Facebook threads or his Website. If they don't scare you, you're dead.
 
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