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Kate Bush Running up that hill

Musically it's wuthering heights I find dull. Apart from the ridiculous register it's sung in it's just a straightforward piano ballad.

Not a direct reply but I can't locate it in any tradition. Looking at just the first vocal line it oscillates between two keys and then throws a polytonal cadence finding a third key while jumping considerable vocal distances exploring different qualities to her voice all the while singing this hypnotic pulse and in a way that just works. Melodically, harmonically, rhythmically and tonally very special and that's just four bars. There are various artists who would use such sophisticated melodic/harmonic language but they were building on existing traditions - the Beatles would be an obvious example. I don't know where this came from, though. It's its own musical world in one song. I can hear a bit of adventurousness on something like This Woman's Work, but in comparison it's still very tame. It was like it was a moment of unique creation that only happens once in a life time and maybe she knew it was a once off and never tried again.
 
I have spent the last 37 yrs thinking the lyrics for Running up that hill by Kate Bush were 'I'd make a deal with God and I'd get into small hard places' Oops!
 
Not a direct reply but I can't locate it in any tradition. Looking at just the first vocal line it oscillates between two keys and then throws a polytonal cadence finding a third key while jumping considerable vocal distances exploring different qualities to her voice all the while singing this hypnotic pulse and in a way that just works. Melodically, harmonically, rhythmically and tonally very special and that's just four bars. There are various artists who would use such sophisticated melodic/harmonic language but they were building on existing traditions - the Beatles would be an obvious example. I don't know where this came from, though. It's its own musical world in one song. I can hear a bit of adventurousness on something like This Woman's Work, but in comparison it's still very tame. It was like it was a moment of unique creation that only happens once in a life time and maybe she knew it was a once off and never tried again.
I agree. Its hardly a straightforward piano Ballard. The only thing I can compare it to from the time is Japanese artist Yakiko Yano, and I very much doubt 14 year old bush was listening to her.
Yano is great by the way. She always gets compared to Bush (especially 70s/80s bush) which must be a tad annoying for her, as technically she came first.

This is not the 'most' Bush sounding, but it's my favourite Akiko Yano album.

 
I agree. Its hardly a straightforward piano Ballard. The only thing I can compare it to from the time is Japanese artist Yakiko Yano, and I very much doubt 14 year old bush was listening to her.
Yano is great by the way. She always gets compared to Bush (especially 70s/80s bush) which must be a tad annoying for her, as technically she came first.

This is not the 'most' Bush sounding, but it's my favourite Akiko Yano album.



There are various things I can compare it to. But in a very lose comparison sort of way. Not as precedents. Art Bears from the same year:

 
For the music geeks. This guy is absolutely wonderful at deconstructing and explaining songs from bass to drums, to vocals and of course guitar.



From stranger things too - master of puppets beautifully explained


I wouldn't describe myself as a music geek but Rick Beato is fantastic, have been subscribed for a while.
 
I wouldn't describe myself as a music geek but Rick Beato is fantastic, have been subscribed for a while.

yeh, he really is. im a (very much part time) musician but the way he explains shit in such an unpatronising way is incredible. not losing sight of why you might like the piece in the first place, ie, its emotional impact.
 
yeh, he really is. im a (very much part time) musician but the way he explains shit in such an unpatronising way is incredible. not losing sight of why you might like the piece in the first place, ie, its emotional impact
The "what makes this song great" is a brilliant playlist, but I also love his tutorials.
 
For the music geeks. This guy is absolutely wonderful at deconstructing and explaining songs from bass to drums, to vocals and of course guitar.



From stranger things too - master of puppets beautifully explained


Love this guy. His enthusiasm and musical knowledge is wonderful to watch.
The more I listen back to Kate Bush the more I realise what a fucking incredible and unique talent she is. Her live show back in 2014 was absolutely stunning.

Here's a fan video giving you an idea of how good it was:



Love this comment: "I remember actually feeling the sound waves of this track hitting me in the chest. One of the most amazing experiences of my entire life."
 
Oh here's some more. I wish she'd release a proper DVD as I'd love to watch it again. It was literally one of the best shows I've ever seen.



 
Love this guy. His enthusiasm and musical knowledge is wonderful to watch.
The more I listen back to Kate Bush the more I realise what a fucking incredible and unique talent she is. Her live show back in 2014 was absolutely stunning.

Here's a fan video giving you an idea of how good it was:



Love this comment: "I remember actually feeling the sound waves of this track hitting me in the chest. One of the most amazing experiences of my entire life."


That metallica one - i assume if the band watched that they'd be amazed they were apparently such technical geniuses :D

I love them. But i think, particularly at that young age, they had no idea what all those random time signatures and suspended chords were all about. could be wrong.
 
They knew what they were doing for sure.

I'm not so sure. I think a lot of music (and i know this is a tangent from this thread) is done purely on instinct and then reverse engineered to explain it.

I'm sure now they sit around studying their stuff analytically but at master of puppets stage I'd be surprised if they did. I don't know terribly much about metallica so could be wrong. But the bands I do know a lot about had no idea what they were doing by 'classic' standards most of the time which is why the music is so wonderful (pixies, sonic youth, pearl jam for example). Kim Thayill from soundgarden definitely did as he treated music as a science (which he he actually was) but stone gossard, thurston moore etc had no idea. not sure Lars ulrich would have had any idea at that stage in his career. regardless, fantastic music.

master of puppets entered the charts again after stranger things too... kids are starved of good music these days clearly.
 
I'm not so sure. I think a lot of music (and i know this is a tangent from this thread) is done purely on instinct and then reverse engineered to explain it.

I'm sure now they sit around studying their stuff analytically but at master of puppets stage I'd be surprised if they did. I don't know terribly much about metallica so could be wrong. But the bands I do know a lot about had no idea what they were doing by 'classic' standards most of the time which is why the music is so wonderful (pixies, sonic youth, pearl jam for example). Kim Thayill from soundgarden definitely did as he treated music as a science (which he he actually was) but stone gossard, thurston moore etc had no idea. not sure Lars ulrich would have had any idea at that stage in his career. regardless, fantastic music.

master of puppets entered the charts again after stranger things too... kids are starved of good music these days clearly.
Cliff Burton had a musical education in jazz & classical though, sure all the odd time signatures and the like was probably down to him
 
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