danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
For fuck sake. People still say this - and maybe even believe it - in the third decade of the 21st Century?
That’s depressing.
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That’s depressing.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
I’m mentally ill. Lots of people are. Using that as a generalised yardstick is probably not a road you should go down, whoever you were talking about.
discokermit
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kanye said he was gonna fix wolves, wolves are now playing european football. he would have my vote, over the senile rapist or the narcissistic rapist.
discokermit
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angry liberals hate the mentally ill as much as they do the 'unintelligent'.
discokermit
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and i think the subtext to all those labelling someone stupid based on what? being a rapper? has got to be racism.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Yes, definitely safer to go with 'twat'.
woah that’s way below the belt, nothing wrong with being a delivery driver
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
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I never said that second quote did I?
ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
No you didn't, marty1 did.
Treacle Toes
Time
Course there isn't.
Do you see it as successful and therefore a measure of someone's intellect though? That's the point being made I think.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
I’m by no means an expert on Kanye’s biography, but he’s certainly been reported as saying plenty of reactionary things in his time. “Reactionary twat” seems fair enough.
(I’ve recently noticed theories that this was some sort of ‘deep cover’ project, but I don’t give that any credibility).
“Slavery was a choice” by the enslaved. That’s not the sort of attitude I have any sympathy for. So, no, not a fan of his political ambitions.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
It seems like the argument being made by both Edie and Marty1 isn't "your position in society directly reflects your intelligence" but more "rich people are usually also intelligent, but intelligent people aren't always rich".
Feel like it's also important to acknowledge, as some seem to have at least alluded to, that 'intelligence' isn't a binary or just one thing; there are many different types of intelligence, and you can be intelligent in one way but not intelligent in many others.
e2a: for what it's worth, at the risk of undermining my second point, I generally wouldn't agree with the argument that "rich people are usually also intelligent". Often they have become rich through a combination of luck and perhaps some 'playing the game', often in a way that many non-rich people wouldn't want to.
Feel like it's also important to acknowledge, as some seem to have at least alluded to, that 'intelligence' isn't a binary or just one thing; there are many different types of intelligence, and you can be intelligent in one way but not intelligent in many others.
e2a: for what it's worth, at the risk of undermining my second point, I generally wouldn't agree with the argument that "rich people are usually also intelligent". Often they have become rich through a combination of luck and perhaps some 'playing the game', often in a way that many non-rich people wouldn't want to.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
No idea how that happened. I'll correct it.
Just to clarify again, I’ve said success not wealth per se. Saul Goodman misquoted me. I’ve already clarified the difference once.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Apologies; I did actually originally write "success", but switched to "rich" to make the distinction between successful people who aren't rich, as you and other acknowledged with regards to nurses.
Certainly, your original posts clearly say "success" rather than "rich/wealthy", as others seem to have taken it.
edit: oh, but I'd still make the argument that there are plenty of intelligent people who aren't successful, too
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I'd say Donald Trump and Boris Johnson are two of the most successful people in the world. How does that work with your theory?
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Saying stuff like
"I am not a fan of books. I would never want a book’s autograph"
or
"I love Coldplay"
or marrying Kim Kardashian.
I’d argue that they are probably more intelligent than they’d have you believe. Although I have to be honest and say I’m not sure in the case of Trump.
maomao
普費斯
Of course there isn't. That was my point.
I am intelligent (yes, I know ) but by standard 1960s measurements (various IQ tests, matrices and so on, I am...apart from the teeny fact that such measurements are essentially meaningless. I am, and always have been, perfectly skint. Oh yeah, I am not remotely successful (as a capitalist exploiter) but am absolutely top in my field when it comes to creative slacking. Which largely illustrates the total redundancy of such metrics as 'success', 'intelligence' and even 'wealth'.
) but by standard 1960s measurements (various IQ tests, matrices and so on, I am...apart from the teeny fact that such measurements are essentially meaningless. I am, and always have been, perfectly skint. Oh yeah, I am not remotely successful (as a capitalist exploiter) but am absolutely top in my field when it comes to creative slacking. Which largely illustrates the total redundancy of such metrics as 'success', 'intelligence' and even 'wealth'.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Confidence and determination are what makes people successful, and money, and connections. Intelligence obviously plays a part for some people but I'd say that overall it's way down the list of criteria.
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
Stares into the sun, suggests nuking a hurricane, advocates bleach as a cure for covid... there's a whole thread on his intelligence...
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
... willingness to rip people off ...
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
I was going to say earlier, I'd expect someone's wealth to be more aligned with their willingness to shit all over other people than with their intelligence. Not always, but more often.
Under the current climate of BLM activism across the globe it’s certainly odd to refer to Kanye as an idiot. Perhaps people think that’s ok if he’s friendly with a certain President?
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
That's almost always the case with financial success, but a willingness to fuck people over is probably a desirable trait if you want to be successful in any way.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
Low cunning and misplaced overconfidence are a matchless combination for this particular job, apparently.
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