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July 2005 London bomb blasts: UPDATES AND NEWS ONLY - NO DISCUSSION

well red said:
"Hmm sounds speculative. I can't see what circumstances would lead to someone being denied access to the tube at that time of the morning. No-one's really looking, it's too busy."

The bus bomb went off one hour after the first bomb, and by that time the tube stations were all closed - its one of the reasons the bus was so full. I think its highly likely that this one was intended for the tube but could not be placed there because the network was shut down so quick. If you have a ticking bomb and you want to kill as many humans as possible, why not place it on a bus

I was thinking along those lines ... just wasn't sure of the facts/timings ...

(NB I suspect the death toll on the bus has not been revealed because they can't match up all the pieces of people yet

:(

Does anyone know which direction the tube at Edgeware Rd was going? was it going out of town?

Heading away from town (source was the Standard though).
 
Am still in the fucking office trying to catch up on the work that I needed to do today but couldn't because my head has been fucked up all day.

At 3.15am my grandad passed away peacefully in his room in a nursing home in Bournemouth at the age of 86. I went down to see him yesterday; he was very ill but pleased to be visited and in reasonable spirits.

Between 8am and 10am the lives of numerous people in London were taken from their loved ones well before their time, and the lives of many more irrevocably altered forever by physical and mental maiming.

Tonight, I look out of my window and see a blood-red sunset .... usually one of London's most underrated features, but somehow more sinister tonight.

What a truly shit day.
 
Here's another piece of pure speculation - one person places the bombs on trains at Kings Cross (all trains came through there) but gets inconveniently evacuated from the station. So they jump on a number 30 outside the station and leave their last bomb there.

Doesn't have to be a big network or conspiracy, neither does it have to be suicide bombers. Just guessing.
 
well red said:
...The bus bomb went off one hour after the first bomb, and by that time the tube stations were all closed - its one of the reasons the bus was so full. I think its highly likely that this one was intended for the tube but could not be placed there because the network was shut down so quick. If you have a ticking bomb and you want to kill as many humans as possible, why not place it on a bus (NB I suspect the death toll on the bus has not been revealed because they can't match up all the pieces of people yet)..
A bus isn't a great target for maximising casualties the blast won't be confined by the structure. It does represent a direct stab at the London tourist trade and as those buses float arround London all the time its a fairly easy 2ndary target of opportunity.
 
well red said:
"Hmm sounds speculative. I can't see what circumstances would lead to someone being denied access to the tube at that time of the morning. No-one's really looking, it's too busy."

The bus bomb went off one hour after the first bomb, and by that time the tube stations were all closed - its one of the reasons the bus was so full. I think its highly likely that this one was intended for the tube but could not be placed there because the network was shut down so quick. If you have a ticking bomb and you want to kill as many humans as possible, why not place it on a bus (NB I suspect the death toll on the bus has not been revealed because they can't match up all the pieces of people yet).

Does anyone know which direction the tube at Edgeware Rd was going? was it going out of town?

Yes, of course. I forgot about the time difference.
 
aylee said:
At 3.15am my grandad passed away peacefully in his room in a nursing home in Bournemouth at the age of 86. I went down to see him yesterday; he was very ill but pleased to be visited and in reasonable spirits.

Sorry to hear that :( At least you got to see him before he passed away.
 
well red said:
Here's another piece of pure speculation - one person places the bombs on trains at Kings Cross (all trains came through there) but gets inconveniently evacuated from the station. So they jump on a number 30 outside the station and leave their last bomb there.

Doesn't have to be a big network or conspiracy, neither does it have to be suicide bombers. Just guessing.

8.51 at Liverpool Street and 8.56 at King's Cross, so unlikely. And it happened in the tunnel so it's not like it could have been left in the station.
 
For some reason these psychos are obsessed with transport - Bin Laden and his "cars of death", the Madrid bombers targetting trains, 911 and the aeroplanes. Buses fit into that model.

What makes me sick is that whoever did this has been (still may be) walking around our City with us, watching us, talking to us. They know us, they know we are people just like them - we aren't satans, infidels, tyrants, we're just ordinary people like them. They don't blow up Bush or Blair, they kill ordinary people on their way to the boring jobs they hate, sitting on the tube waiting for the weekend (that will never come).

Walking home from work today with the streets full of people I remembered the last time I'd seen that many people out together - it was when 2 million of us took to the streets to protest against the war, the largest demonstration this country has ever seen. This is our reward?
 
"8.51 at Liverpool Street and 8.56 at King's Cross, so unlikely. And it happened in the tunnel so it's not like it could have been left in the station."

I'm thinking simple time-bombs. Leave one in the Circle Line train for Liverpool St set for 15 minutes time, then cross over to the other side and do the same for the Edgeware Rd train, then change to the Piccadilly and leave a shorter delay on it?

It could be a gang of nutters, or one nutter with a big bag of despair. I'm guessing that only the CCTV will tell us. Hope the bus had real cameras on it and not fakes.
 
It was so strange today- walking around. Despite the surreality of everything, it felt like one of the most real days i've lived: people were looking each other in the eye, touching each other on the shoulder as they passed in the pub, being human to each other in a way the isolation of the city precludes every other day.

I found it quite touching. Basic human solidarity and collective feeling.
 
kropotkin said:
It was so strange today- walking around. Despite the surreality of everything, it felt like one of the most real days i've lived: people were looking each other in the eye, touching each other on the shoulder as they passed in the pub, being human to each other in a way the isolation of the city precludes every other day.

I found it quite touching. Basic human solidarity and collective feeling.

Good post -- it felt like that in the pub I was in as well.
 
kropotkin said:
It was so strange today- walking around. Despite the surreality of everything, it felt like one of the most real days i've lived: people were looking each other in the eye, touching each other on the shoulder as they passed in the pub, being human to each other in a way the isolation of the city precludes every other day.

I found it quite touching. Basic human solidarity and collective feeling.

Yeah...great post like William said...

Shame it could be back to normal next week with everyone ignoring each other and being insular :(
 
kropotkin said:
It was so strange today- walking around. Despite the surreality of everything, it felt like one of the most real days i've lived: people were looking each other in the eye, touching each other on the shoulder as they passed in the pub, being human to each other in a way the isolation of the city precludes every other day.

I found it quite touching. Basic human solidarity and collective feeling.


yeah a nice way to put it :)
 
kropotkin said:
It was so strange today- walking around. Despite the surreality of everything, it felt like one of the most real days i've lived: people were looking each other in the eye, touching each other on the shoulder as they passed in the pub, being human to each other in a way the isolation of the city precludes every other day.

I found it quite touching. Basic human solidarity and collective feeling.


Such a shame it takes something like today to make this happen.
 
Update From Work

well. its all gone a bit quiet as everything sinks in.

we're slowly recovering our ambulances and crews from around london who were deployed for the incident.

people still seem to be listening about the request not to call 999 unless they need to - and mostly its been violent psychiatrics, i dont know if this is related to the incident. i guess its put people a little more on edge.

we're still getting calls about suspect packages and have teams deployed to deal specifically with them.

but life goes on. we're prepared in case there's any follow up but i hope there isnt.

my upmost respect goes out to all the LAS staff who were on duty this morning and throughout the day. we've picked up the pieces and got it all moving again but they did the serious work.

wiskers
 
Do you think London could be struck again tomorrow? i'm not causing people to panic but what if the bombers who struck this morning have not finished with us?
Hearing the Security experts they were pretty concerned about more bombings etc
 
Well done Wiskey! And my poor cousin, who was on duty this morning in central London,(LAS) god only knows what he's seen today, doesn't bear thinking about. I have only just found out that he was there.
 
coventrycityfan said:
Do you think London could be struck again tomorrow? i'm not causing people to panic but what if the bombers who struck this morning have not finished with us?
Hearing the Security experts they were pretty concerned about more bombings etc

We have been told that we can stay away from work tomorrow
 
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