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Paul Kegan
Does the Department of Justice in the USA dictate to judges what sentances they pass?
Joe Biden's time is up
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Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I don't think it'll make the blindest bit of difference tbh. The Dems managed to lose a man who thinks probity is his 3pm colonic.
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
If the dems hadn't spent the past several months banging the drum about how their side repects the rule of law and if Biden himself hadn't declared that he would not pardon Hunter, then I would find the act understandable, considering what Trump likely has in store for the guy. However, because the dems did bang the drum and biden did state several times a pardon would not be forthcoming, all this pardon has managed to do is:
- make the dems look like an even bigger bunch of cunts than they already are
- rob the democrats of any moral authority in future arguments against trump's blatant and massive corruption, thus removing any viable attack lines for future political campaigns
- further erode what little trust remains in politicians over in the us
- nullify and neuter any attack lines concerning abuse of pardon power, as we all know trump is going to hammer the shit out of that
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
only man who managed to beat trump at the voting booth mind..
as I said previously being nice and playing by the rule for him discarded by the party and country.. for a orange shit Hitler wannabe
id be given a much larger two fingers to everyone involved..fuck principles when you are leaving office in that situation
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
If one has a position that the electorate were to blame for Trump's victory because they didn't vote for the Democrats, then clearly it's the electorate who has to gain the Democrat's trust, not the other way around.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
See, I think you're both right, that Biden is playing up to the ' they're all the same' stuff, would make political attacks on Trump more difficult - in normal times.
But, for me - and you can see my pessimism in the America turning into a dictatorship thread - US politics has gone far beyond that.
For me, thinking that this will have any impact on whether a Dem or a republican is elected in 2028 is akin to a Foreign Office policy wonk writing memo in 1943 stating that the RAF sending a thousand bombers to Berlin will undo valuable diplomatic work at the League of Nations.
Or the White Star Line launching an investigation into whether the water absorbance of wallpaper used on the Titanic was responsible for it sinking so fast.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
if the Dems want to get elected in 2028, they should start telling Americans they plan to make eggs cheaper by fucking the poor and infirm..
^ Yep. I'm not quite as pessimistic as you, at least regards how far down the road of recognisable full on dictatorship the US will get in the next 4 years.
However, this is like a game where you know the other side is dirty, cheating, will use anything against you. In such circumstances, you're a moron if you don't use anything in your power, *optics be dammed, to protect your position and those you care about most. Let's remember, the system allows Biden to do this. He hasn't broken any rules. I'd have done the same.
* optics isn't going to win you anything. There's an ajudicated rapest and convicted fellen in the WH. How's that for optics... Winning the people over is what matters and they don't care, at least not enough to matter.
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
JFC, my view was with regards to the democrats now having a significant reduction of options regarding any argument that can be made against trump (and, by extension, other republicans who are as shameless as he) when it comes to future campaigning in their insufferably myopic election cycles (i mean, they're already banging on about 2028 before the sun has even set on 2024 ffs!). I was not attempting to project anything regarding how it would affect people's voting habits...
Whether this actually has any actual long-term effect on campaign outcomes in future elections is doubtful -after all, there are plenty of other issues that will end up determining those. I suppose my incredulity with all of this is that, in a system already running on fumes and that seems to be one dodgy act away from total collapse, for biden to turn around and so blatantly do a 180 on his previously stated hard position regarding this issue seems so massively counterproductive. It's a stark reminder to voters that these people who make out they are so pious in 'placing the national interest first' in actual reality also fall back on the whole "fuck you, I got mine" attitude when it comes down to it.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
She's had a speeding ticket before as well if my memory serves me correctly?
Princess Anne guilty over dog attack
The Princess Royal today became the first member of the royal family to be convicted of a criminal offence as she pleaded guilty to a charge under the dangerous dogs act.www.theguardian.com
breadandcircuse
"The time is always right to do what is right"
I think many posters are being rather naive to think there will be future elections, if this lot of crooks get their way.
As for Biden, I applaud him. You know Hunter would not be safe. For fuck's sake, the orange bastard was whining that he didn't get a death sentence! Now we have Patel banging on about how they are going after enemies, particularly Hunter, for anything and nothing.
These are not normal times, and a dangerous regime is incoming. Fuck them. As if that evil shitgibbon and his lackeys have any room for moral outrage. I just wish the Dems had started fighting back sooner against a madman, instead of always being the good guys. When they go low, we go high, is a nice sentiment. It hasn't worked. Biden needs to go on a rampage now, with the SC bs, and start busting heads. After all, a president is allowed to do anything in office, according to them, so start rounding up the traitors, and ensure Jack Smith has a full preemptive pardon for whatever they try to do to him, as he is another one who is not safe.
As for Biden, I applaud him. You know Hunter would not be safe. For fuck's sake, the orange bastard was whining that he didn't get a death sentence! Now we have Patel banging on about how they are going after enemies, particularly Hunter, for anything and nothing.
These are not normal times, and a dangerous regime is incoming. Fuck them. As if that evil shitgibbon and his lackeys have any room for moral outrage. I just wish the Dems had started fighting back sooner against a madman, instead of always being the good guys. When they go low, we go high, is a nice sentiment. It hasn't worked. Biden needs to go on a rampage now, with the SC bs, and start busting heads. After all, a president is allowed to do anything in office, according to them, so start rounding up the traitors, and ensure Jack Smith has a full preemptive pardon for whatever they try to do to him, as he is another one who is not safe.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Of course their will still be elections it is ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
The question is how free and fair they are. They will get less fair and less meaningful, but it will take some time before they hit the level of say elections in Russia.
The question is how free and fair they are. They will get less fair and less meaningful, but it will take some time before they hit the level of say elections in Russia.
breadandcircuse
"The time is always right to do what is right"
"Vote for me and you will never have to vote again", from his own disgusting mouth.
It's not ridiculous to watch a fascist in action, hear what he says, what he has proposed, and come to that conclusion.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I don't get why people can't understand what he meant by that.
Vote for me and I'll fix all your problems is what he is saying.
breadandcircuse
"The time is always right to do what is right"
I've got a bridge to sell you.........
This is the maniac who is all in for Project 2025, and can't keep his big fat gob shut. He was also banging on about having a "little secret" just before the election, and that he didn't need any more votes, he had enough. That's not at all suspicious
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emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
It's funny you think I'm the gullable one.I've got a bridge to sell you.........
This is the maniac who is all in for Project 2025, and can't keep his big fat gob shut. He was also banging on about having a "little secret" just before the election, and that he didn't need any more votes, he had enough. That's not at all suspicious
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
Amazing that trump is telling you what he is going to do and you're still saying "No, he doesn't actually mean that..."
breadandcircuse
"The time is always right to do what is right"
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
And how will he achieve this?
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Well, we've had Trump shitting his pants on the Maga thread, so it's probably a score draw on that one.
Seriously though, so what?
Well er, it's kind of part of the job description not to fall asleep on the job as POTUS. Particularly when this is the first time you've ever actually been arsed to visit Africa and are sitting with all the local presidents.
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