Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Doctor Carrot]

I'm inclined to take him at his word.

I can't read twitter posts on Tapatalk! I dunno why it's not possible to, unless I'm missing something.

 

[cantsin]

Really, though? I'm not a swing voter, but nor am I a core supporter of Corbyn. I did pay the £3 and, for the first time, vote in an internal Labour party ballot, but more because I was interested to see what would happen next. From the start, I've been sceptical about his ability to change things for a whole variety of reasons, and never more so than in light of his insipid 'Remain, I suppose' campaigning.

But although my first thought when the attacks resumed over the weekend might have been that he probably couldn't lead convincingly under such conditions, the way he's held his ground is quite heartening - it suggests decisive resolve on his part. On the other hand, the more hysterical the campaign against him becomes, the more it seems to convey a sense that he does pose a threat.

I'm not saying either of those things are necessarily true - I guess we'll find out how decisive and resolute he is if he stays, and whether he proves to be a threat, over the next few months - but it certainly seems like an impression other people besides me might have.

agreed, any doubts about Corbyns + Mcdonnells strength + resilience have been wiped out by the last week - it's draining just watching / empathising with the shitstorm they've endured from all quarters, many of them close, can only imagine what it's like to be on the receiving end . impressed.

Having said that, if they survive, win the leadership election, and then don't make a serious attempt at introing mandatory reselection of some sort, then I'm done with it all... it would be just this , forever : pointless, endless internicine war...not worth the effort , when there's so little to actually be gained in concrete terms .

 

[redsquirrel]

Chakrabarti has apparently said Corbyn is being deliberately misrepresented on R4 this morning too, anyone hear it?

Yeah that interview was amazing, Webb doing everything he can to undermine Chakrabarti's relation of events in an attempt to blame Corbyn for something.

 

[chilango]

I do think Corbyn will have been damaged by this in the eyes of a number of swing voters and others away from his core supporters.

I don't know about that.

The only people I've heard criticizing Corbyn for his stance here have been people who never would've voted Labour anyway (except maybe, just maybe, peak Blair in a minority of instances).

Every potential Labour voter (and every Labour member/supporter) who has expressed an opinion on this to me have expressed at least sympathy,and more often support,for Corbyn.

I don't live in a traditional Labour heartland, but in a Labour controlled borough that is a target seat they need to win from the Tories according to conventional BBC election night logic.

Edited to add: And most of these people would never normally discuss the Labour Party leadership at all.

 

[19force8]

Chakrabarti has apparently said Corbyn is being deliberately misrepresented on R4 this morning too, anyone hear it?

It was a beautiful display of how to stay on message in the face of irrational provocation. Worth catching on the i-player.

And this after the news bulletin which reported the Israeli ambassador saying he didn't think JC was comparing Israel to ISIS.

E2a PS It would almost be worth a visit to Harry's Place to see how they cope with that one.

 

[danny la rouge]

I can't read twitter posts on Tapatalk! I dunno why it's not possible to, unless I'm missing something.

Sorry. I gave up on tapatalk recently (when it logged me on under an old username I abandoned years before the advent of smartphones!), and forget others are still struggling on with it. Apologies.

It doesn't display tweets: you have to click "web view". But the précis is that Burnham says he thinks it's not on to have a coup, especially at this time, he never took part in coups and isn't going to start now, and Corbyn was democratically elected by the members of the party, he respects the democratic process and the party members.

 

[maomao]

It seems to have calmed down for the moment.Hopefully more CLPs will be taking advantage of this pause to follow the lead of Hunt's and Eagle's and telling their MPs to wind their fucking necks in or fuck off.

 

[killer b]

The hunt no confidence motion is from an individual ward rather than a full clp I believe (unanimous did sound unbelievable on reflection...)

 

[19force8]

The hunt no confidence motion is from an individual ward rather than a full clp I believe (unanimous did sound unbelievable on reflection...)

With misreporting like that you'll get as bad a name as the Grauniad.

Oh just a moment, you made a correction - how unprofessional.

 

[killer b]

 

[gosub]

Whatever happened to the Angela Eagle leadership launch? | LabourList

 

[inva]

Whatever happened to the Angela Eagle leadership launch? | LabourList

lost in time, like tears in rain

 

[Sprocket.]

lost in time, like tears in rain

Like steam off piss!

 

[Artaxerxes]

The PLP really have just fucking kicked themselves in the balls haven't they? Not one of them had the guts to step up to the plate and say "this isn't working, I challenge you Jez"

Proof what a bunch of vapid shits they are and the longer it goes on the worse it gets for them in terms of actually beating the guy.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Expect to see a lot of this kind of thing over the next few days, loads of CLPs are having emergency meetings this weekend.

Chakrabarti has apparently said Corbyn is being deliberately misrepresented on R4 this morning too, anyone hear it?

It's here from 2.33.45 to 2.40.06

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[DaveCinzano]

Whatever happened to the Angela Eagle leadership launch? | LabourList

lost in time, like tears in rain

As far back as she can remember, she always wanted to be a bottler

 

[butchersapron]

Councillor endorsers

The 450 Cllr's who endorse JC

One of my two labour councilors on there. Oddly enough, the one who isn't is the better one for helping out on local stuff i've been involved in. Never even seen the other one.

 

[tommers]

Nobody from Lambeth. Too busy shutting down libraries.

 

[quimcunx]

Councillor endorsers

The 450 Cllr's who endorse JC

When was that? Now or from the previous leadership election?

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, last time.

 

[quimcunx]

thanks.

 

[binka]

According to twitter (so fuck knows if it's true - hopefully it is) Tristam Hunt's CLP passed unanimous motions last night

1) in support of Corbyn
2) of no confidence in Hunt.

The acronym LOL has never been more apt

My dad is in a CLP not a million miles from there. Stoke Central CLP have hated Hunt from day one - thete was an awful lot of anger at having him forced on them. The day after Corbyn was elected the first thing my dad said was 'now we can get rid of Hunt'. I'm sure Hunt isn't the only one who should start updating their cv...

 

[DaveCinzano]

One of my two labour councilors on there. Oddly enough, the one who isn't is the better one for helping out on local stuff i've been involved in. Never even seen the other one.

There's three Bristol councillors on that list, one didn't stand this year though?

ETA:

Yes, last time.

Ah, that makes more sense then

 

[andysays]

There's three Bristol councillors on that list, one didn't stand this year though?

treelover's post was a little misleading. Rather than endorse (present tense) it should have said endorsed (past tense)

Over 450 Labour councillors have declared their public support for Jeremy Corbyn’s bid to be leader of the Labour Party.

 

[butchersapron]

There's three Bristol councillors on that list, one didn't stand this year though?

As quimcunx noted, that's actually from the leadership campaign. So yes, local elections since will have changed things. Threlfall (my councillor on that list) is still a councillor. Don't know about the other signers though.

 

[DaveCinzano]

treelover's post was a little misleading

Shocked, I was! Shocked and troubled, I say!

 

[gawkrodger]

This is interesting - big swing to Labour (largely it seems from UKIP + BNP). Clearly the unelectable Corbyn

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">St Michael&#39;s (Bexley) result:<br>CON: 37.4% (+2.7)<br>LAB: 33.5% (+11.5)<br>UKIP: 18.2% (-14.7)<br>LDEM: 4.7% (+4.7)<br>BNP: 4.2% (-6.3)<br>GRN: 2.2% (+2.2)</p>&mdash; Britain Elects (@britainelects) <a href="">June 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[killer b]

It isn't that interesting tbf. I saw a similar post showing a 'big swing' to lib-dems in another seat, as if it heralded their rebirth. Big swings in council elections could be a hundred voters...

 

[bi0boy]

It isn't that interesting tbf. I saw a similar post showing a 'big swing' to lib-dems in another seat, as if it heralded their rebirth. Big swings in council elections could be a hundred voters...

Yes, a bingo night or parents' evening could be responsible.

 

[quimcunx]

This their latest tweet showing WM intentions.

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