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Out of curiosity, what policies do you think the 'Centre/Left' desires?
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Out of curiosity, what policies do you think the 'Centre/Left' desires?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
To be fair, it's so much more rewarding than joy-filled optimism.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
A nice shiny brogue stamping on a human face. Forever.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
You can't by voting for Labour that ousts a vaguely left leader and then shifts to the right. It's been said many times and the answer hasn't changed either.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
And that's it - get rid of the Tories. Red not blue, and signing up to Labour (or even worse the LibDems) forever in the name of lesser evilism.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
If anyone is remotely interested, the clerks at my polling station - Worcestershire county council elections - thought that turn-out was definitely higher than average.
Not referendum or GE levels, but higher than standard county/district council elections.
That was at 8.30pm, so a decent sample.
Not referendum or GE levels, but higher than standard county/district council elections.
That was at 8.30pm, so a decent sample.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
According to Popbitch today, he's already been sacked anyway, a couple of weeks ago.
I don't know if he was sacked. Last i heard he was 'suspended'.
Either way it's not enough. If I had my way he'd be thrown off a fucking cliff into the channel.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
He wasn't sacked for that (it hadn't happened yet) - he was gone anyway, just sitting around the office running his internet business. Allegedly.
mikey mikey
Active Member
None of us here are centre or centre left and nobody thinks what you think they believe and anyway nobody in Labour is really centre or centre left and you are parodying nothing but your own paranoia [/standard moderate reponse to parody about moderates]
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
You wot?
mikey mikey
Active Member
Nothing. That message does not exist. Tony is not a Blairite and the term "moderates" is a slur that Corbynistabots throw at [fill in with current appropriate and acceptable appellation] Labour MPs.
Assad Regime flag?
Don't you think that might represent the people in Syria, not solely the leader?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Not when it's waved by a bunch of Stalinist shits, no.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
no, I don't think it might. what do you think it represents?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It's the flag of the regime that's killed tens of thousands of civilians via barrel bombing and airstrikes, that hung 10 000+ political opponents as the revolution gathered pace, that practices mass torture and rape on the 10s of thousand political opponents that it currently holds hostage in it's prisons, that starves towns and cities that oppose all the above - the regime that has threatened and acted on the slogan Assad or the country burns.
So no, i don't think it was there meaning anything but support for those actions and the wish for the principal designer of these policies to win by using them. To represent that approval and endorsement. Certainly not to represent the people.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
In the context of the civil war, it's apparently considered a partisan flag.
isn't it just an easy way to assert solidarity with the people - just by showing the flag of that country?
Personally I hate flags and I hate nationalism, but I'm not going to infer from the presence of the Syrian flag that John McDonnell is pro-Assad, that's ridiculous!
I'm not defending the Assad regime. More to the point, I see no evidence that JM is either.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
No, that's not what that flag means - it means that you support one side over another. As would carrying this flag:
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I doubt he designed the backdrop anyway. It mainly shows that he's not too fussed about what he stands in front of, I think.
What I think is irrelevant, it's what JMcD thinks that's pertinent.
No, that's not what that flag means - it means that you support one side over another. As would carrying this flag:
I've no idea what that flag is
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Which people?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I'm telling you what that flag means and what is behind the flying of it as you seemed unaware. I'm not saying that you support the assad regime. It doesn't mean what you think - that's all.
JM knows what it means as well. That's probably why he made sure it was not in his tweet of the pictures of the speech. But he knew when he made that speech and he could have asked for its removal. The london-labour-union left is riddled with these assad regime supporting stalinists and red-brown and conspiracy types.
I think it's more likely a short hand for showing solidarity with the people. I've seen nothing that makes me think McDonnell supports Assad. If someone has evidence to the contrary I'm happy to be corrected, but I'm not going to condemn the guy like this just because he's standing next to the Syrian flag, that's completely over the top
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Then you've made my point.
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