Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[ViolentPanda]

He is too weak to lead so someone new must take over. Having said that the party has ignored their core voters for so long that it is now pretty much impossible for them to win a raffle let alone win an election.

Go fuck a dog, Faragist.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I am so hoping we have the last laugh in all of this.

Me too. If we have to have Parliamentarism as our "mode of governance", I'd far rather that someone like Corbyn was leading the left, than the red Tory scum that riddle the Parliamentary Labour Party like intestinal worms.

 

[redsquirrel]

There seems to be an unwillingness to accept that not everyone in the Shadow Cabinet that has resigned is a Blairite and/or a careerist.

It’s gone beyond that.

My friend joined the Shadow Cabinet in a genuine attempt to make JC’s leadership work but has come to reluctant conclusion that it just isn’t working.

No more, no less.

That doesn't answer my question, why did they abstain on the welfare vote? No one who abstained on that vote can claim to be anything other than a neo-liberal scumbag, it was a clear litmus test for anyone who has even mild social democratic tendencies, your friend failed it.

 

[NoXion]

Again updated the list of resigners with their position on the welfare vote

Chris Bryant abstained
Karl Turner abstained
Hillary Benn abstained
Heidi Alexander abstained
Gloria de Piero abstained
Lucy Powell abstained
Lilian Greenwood abstained
Ian Murray abstained
Kerry McCarthy abstained
Seema Malhotra abstained
Vernon Coaker abstained

Roberta Blackman-Woods abstained
Luciana Berger abstained
Neil Coyle abstained
Alex Cunningham abstained
Wayne David abstained
Angela Eagle abstained
Maria Eagle abstained
Yvonne Fovargue abstained
Kate Green abstained
Nia Griffiths abstained
John Healy abstained
Diana Johnson abstained
Lisa Nandy abstained
Toby Perkins abstained
Jess Philips abstained
Steve Reed abstained
Ruth Smeeth abstained
Owen Smith abstained
Karen Smyth abstained
Nick Thomas-Symonds abstained

Kier Stamer abstained
Jack Dromey abstained

Big fucking surprise, they're all cunts.

 

[hermitical]

If there is another leadership contest will registered supporters still be able to vote?

 

[sheothebudworths]

Big fucking surprise, they're all cunts.

Aaaaaaand... Good Riddance!

Corbyn/McDonnell must obviously have had a clue this was coming...could it be that they've put just as much thought into how to play it, if not more, and with just as much time to prepare as anyone else? That this might just be a positive outcome that they were embracing, rather than a negative one they are simply reacting to?
(I have no clue beyond watching it unfold, tbf )

 

[chilango]

A spokesman for Green Party MP Caroline Lucas has dismissed speculation on social media that she is going to be given a job in Jeremy Corbyn's shadow cabinet.

 

[Pickman's model]

If there is another leadership contest will registered supporters still be able to vote?

As I understand it the rules remain the same

 

[billy_bob]

A spokesman for Green Party MP Caroline Lucas has dismissed speculation on social media that she is going to be given a job in Jeremy Corbyn's shadow cabinet.

Labour would presumably love to coopt someone of her perceived integrity but it'd be political suicide for her to entertain it. Especially if the main 'left-wing' party may be about to collapse in a heap of rubble.

 

[chilango]

Labour would presumably love to coopt someone of her perceived integrity but it'd be political suicide for her to entertain it. Especially if the main 'left-wing' party may be about to collapse in a heap of rubble.

There's mutterings of an electoral pact too.

 

[sheothebudworths]

If there is another leadership contest will registered supporters still be able to vote?

This indicates that they would...

Can Jeremy Corbyn survive the Labour leadership crisis? - The i newspaper online iNews

Seems to be ongoing arguments about whether he'd automatically be on the ballot or not, though.

 

[billy_bob]

Meanwhile, as we all drown under these column inches on Labour's problems, we've heard nothing from our serving prime minister since Friday morning's statement ("well, I'm off out, chaps - sorry about the mess over there, hope your domestic doesn't mind a bit putting a bit of welly into it!!") and he and the rest of the government seem content to leave us in a virtual vacuum for several days as to how one of the most momentous political decisions in living memory is actually going to play out; Boris and other senior figures are basically sitting outside No. 10 sharpening knives and playing Van Halen really loud; and what does the media have to say about it?

Well, apparently a celebrity chef is a bit peeved.

So, nothing to see there then

At least Cameron's actually had something to say on the subject now so the coverage is marginally more fairly spread. Although you'd have thought 'PM says nothing for three days' would have been fairly interesting in itself.

I'm ashamed to admit I thought the pig-fucker's comment to the newest Labour MP was quite funny (he said he hoped she had her mobile on her in case she got offered a shadow cabinet post before the end of the day).

 

[killer b]

This is interesting too, and trails the idea of McDonnell staying on as shadow chancellor if Corbyn is ousted - something that occurred to me as a possible way that might be seized on to bridge the gap between 'centrists' and the left - I understand McDonnell has proved unexpectedly popular...

Labour After the Earthquake

 

[billy_bob]

There's mutterings of an electoral pact too.

A shame they didn't go for that before the last GE really - none of the current crap would be happening. Just a whole different load of crap

 

[billy_bob]

This is interesting too, and trails the idea of McDonnell staying on as shadow chancellor if Corbyn is ousted - something that occurred to me as a possible way that might be seized on to bridge the gap between 'centrists' and the left - I understand McDonnell has proved unexpectedly popular...

Labour After the Earthquake

I understood the opposite - that people generally didn't warm to McDonnell nearly as much as to Corbyn. I have to say that surprises me though - I think he has considerably more presence without losing the substance entirely.

 

[chilango]

There's still plenty of fantasy notions about a rainbow alliance kicking around. I guess a Corbyn led rump post Blairite split inside or outside the Labour Party would be ripe pickings for that.

It's a fantasy though.

I still don't see a Labour split happening.

 

[killer b]

I understood the opposite - that people generally didn't warm to McDonnell nearly as much as to Corbyn.

In parliament?

 

[Louis MacNeice]

There's still plenty of fantasy notions about a rainbow alliance kicking around. I guess a Corbyn led rump post Blairite split inside or outside the Labour Party would be ripe pickings for that.

It's a fantasy though.

I still don't see a Labour split happening.

I can't if Corbyn looses, but if he took part in leadership contest and won then god knows what happens!

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[danny la rouge]

So, nobody will vote for it, but looks like a break away Scottish Labour might be on the cards now:

 

[Biscuitician]

All those people have quit? Fuck me! There's going to be nothing left! I thought at least one of the Eagles was on his side.

Thick as thieves

 

[chilango]

So, nobody will vote for it, but looks like a break away Scottish Labour might be on the cards now:

What would their stance on independence be?

 

[killer b]

What would their stance on independence be?

irrelevant.

 

[Pickman's model]

What would their stance on independence be?

If it gets them votes...

 

[killer b]

I don't want to come over all treelover, but wtf are all those Socialist Worker banners doing at the Corbyn support rally? Fucking bizarre.

 

[danny la rouge]

What would their stance on independence be?

Fuck knows. The Scot Labs are now punting a federal UK as a way to keep Scotland in the EU. They converted to this policy this afternoon.

 

[danny la rouge]

I don't want to come over all treelover, but wtf are all those Socialist Worker banners doing at the Corbyn support rally? Fucking bizarre.

Get that rape apologist cult the fuck out of there. Weird, creepy, sex abusers.

 

[billy_bob]

In parliament?

Sorry - misread you. I meant in the wider world.

 

[killer b]

I don't get it. Surely they should realise waving SWP banners about just harms his position?

 

[DotCommunist]

Fuck knows. The Scot Labs are now punting a federal UK as a way to keep Scotland in the EU. They converted to this policy this afternoon.

I see they have thought this one through, just like when they got Jim Murphy in to lead a charge. Jim '9 years in student politics' Murphy. Touching base. Shambles all round

 

[billy_bob]

I don't want to come over all treelover, but wtf are all those Socialist Worker banners doing at the Corbyn support rally? Fucking bizarre.

I'm sure there was a time when you only had to think something even slightly left-wing and within seconds there'd be someone standing in front of you trying to sell copies of the Socialist Worker. I've seen them getting backers on far more bizarre bicycles than a Corbyn rally.