Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[killer b]

Fuck knows mate. It's all up in the air atm.

 

[Wilf]

Just read on the grauniad site that corcbyn will be addressing supporters outside parliament tonight (not a bad move) - and will be flanked with 'up to 20 remaining loyal MPs'. We few, we happy few...

 

[hash tag]

He can still find 20 loyal MP's?
I see the majority of the shadow cabinet have now walked.

 

[butchersapron]

There's 230 MPs not 100 or something ffs.

 

[sheothebudworths]

From Twitter there appears to be an influx of middle-class remainers joining up.

I've seen a lot of people joining Momentum over the last couple of days, and yes, I think there has been an uptick in Labour membership, that I think has been decently substantial. Not all are joining to show support for JC, although many are. Some are joining in the hopes they can have a vote for whoever is on the ballot opposite him.

Cheers, both.

 

[two sheds]

My friend joined the Shadow Cabinet in a genuine attempt to make JC’s leadership work but has come to reluctant conclusion that it just isn’t working.

But the only way we'll know that is after a general election. That's why people are angry - he's not been given a chance to put an alternative to the electorate.

 

[Johnny.]

He is too weak to lead so someone new must take over. Having said that the party has ignored their core voters for so long that it is now pretty much impossible for them to win a raffle let alone win an election.

 

[Rob Ray]

He is too weak to lead so someone new must take over. Having said that the party has ignored their core voters for so long that it is now pretty much impossible for them to win a raffle let alone win an election.

One message, dancing Farage gif... oh yes I have great faith in this chap. Definitely not a sock puppet.

 

[steeplejack]

Two options:

1. Corbyn won't bend and sees off the coup thanks to the support of the membership; Labour splits in two with a new Blairite party formed, possibly in a formal merger with the cheap Thunderbirds puppet Tim Farron;

2. Corbyn just can't take anymore, folds, and gives way to a "commonsense" neoliberal like Dan Jarvis.

First option is looking likelier just now. All these nonentities have walked to no effect. Corbyn is still there.

 

[redcogs]

The arrogance of the Blairite scumbags is breathtaking, and they actually do believe that the Labour Party is their property, that they own it, and that it's future is their concern, and theirs alone.

In fact they are a bunch of cringing spineless celebrity cretins in suits, who get paid far too much money for doing far too little, and nothing of any value.

Corby and the broader membership are well rid of them, every last one.

Needed next? - a rolling program of de-selections to finally expunge them all, just as a good stiff dose of radiotherapy might put paid to a cancer on an otherwise healthy body.

 

[danny la rouge]

Two options:

1. Corbyn won't bend and sees off the coup thanks to the support of the membership; Labour splits in two with a new Blairite party formed, possibly in a formal merger with the cheap Thunderbirds puppet Tim Farron;

2. Corbyn just can't take anymore, folds, and gives way to a "commonsense" neoliberal like Dan Jarvis.

First option is looking likelier just now. All these nonentities have walked to no effect. Corbyn is still there.

Hope he keeps his nerve.

 

[steeplejack]

From Staines' blog:

According to Corbynista Labour sources, Tom Watson is the coup leader and the plan is currently that there will be a vote of no confidence and then Lisa Nandy will eventually take over. She is said to have Watson’s backing. Labour whip Conor McGinn, who is close to Watson and hates Corbyn, is choreographing resignations. Labour MPs are calling colleagues canvassing support for Nandy. That is the plan from one faction of the plotters: for Nandy to ultimately take over from Corbyn…

UPDATE: Sam Coates from the Times reckons there are three separate coup groups, all fighting among themselves as to who takes over.

UPDATE II: Lisa Nandy has now resigned and said Watson should take over as caretaker leader.

just seen the footage of loud calls to resign during Corbyn's speech and open derision from many sides of the house, including Cameron who even manages to laugh at his opposite number in the middle of his own disastrous position.

Not something that can easily be "toughed out".

 

[Jeff Robinson]

This has been reported by 'Dennis Skinner is a Legend' On Facebook:

Gutted the Cameras stuck with the tory who was speaking, BUT as Jeremy Corbyn entered the House of Commons, Dennis got up from his seat, walked over to Jeremy, shook his hand, and gave the ex labour Shadow Cabinet a lovely gesture with his fingers!!!... The footage just shows Dennis walking away from Jeremy!!. grrrrrr can not believe it didnt show him!! so i have nothing to upload for you!. BUT IT DID HAPPEN!

Has also been confirmed by Stewart McDonald MP.

 

[Red Cat]

Is a Labour split really that unlikely? Corbyn seems to be despised by a lot of Labour folk. An acquaintance of mine worked for Labour until the general election and has held a massive grudge against Corbyn since he was elected. He worked for him for six months and thinks he's a clown. He's a bit of a Red Tory though and thinks socialism is an anachronism within the Labour Party.

Not sure that someone who can keep their head like he has could be called a clown. That must take a very strong sense of integrity.

 

[danny la rouge]

This has been reported by 'Dennis Skinner is a Legend' On Facebook:



Has also been confirmed by Stewart McDonald MP.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I hope the speed of this is a sign of a new decisiveness. He's tried the 'big tent' approach and it failed. Maybe he had to start off that way or the old guard would have caused even more chaos than they have from within. But at this stage Corbyn has to accept that the only option is to have them outside pissing in, and invest in a waterproof groundsheet and some strong disinfectant.

He's done a decent re-shuffle from a "socialist Labour" POV, putting Lewis and Osamor in positions of responsibility, and spreading the "big jobs" to followers in their actual competencies, now he's not aiming to please the so-called "moderates".

 

[sheothebudworths]

From Staines' blog:



just seen the footage of loud calls to resign during Corbyn's speech and open derision from many sides of the house, including Cameron who even manages to laugh at his opposite number in the middle of his own disastrous position.

Not something that can easily be "toughed out".

Disgraceful bunch of cunts, the lot of them.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Reckon the Junior and Secretarial jobs will be a pain in the arse to fill though.

TBF, in opposition they're mostly sinecures where the place-holders might learn something if their boss feels like sharing.

 

[DotCommunist]

Hope he keeps his nerve.

hopefully the wilderness years of nu lab will have given him the spine to cling on out of sheer bloody mindedness.

 

[nino_savatte]

From Staines' blog:



just seen the footage of loud calls to resign during Corbyn's speech and open derision from many sides of the house, including Cameron who even manages to laugh at his opposite number in the middle of his own disastrous position.

Not something that can easily be "toughed out".

Fuck Guido Fawkes and the fascist horse he rode in on.

 

[sheothebudworths]

He's done a decent re-shuffle from a "socialist Labour" POV, putting Lewis and Osamor in positions of responsibilities, and spreading the "big jobs" to followers in their actual competencies, now he's not aiming to please the so-called "moderates".

I am so hoping we have the last laugh in all of this.

 

[weltweit]

Whatever the question ..

Whatever the question ..

Burham is not the answer!

 

[Idris2002]

First option is looking likelier just now. .

I actually salivated reading this.

 

[cantsin]

I am so hoping we have the last laugh in all of this.

as long JC gets on the ballot ( which seems to be likely,legally, asfaik?) , then we won't necc get the last laugh, but a fecking decent size interim one as we enjoy him sweeping that ( hopefully with an increased % ) , and wait for Chilcot.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I thought better of Jess Phillips I must say.

Why? She's consistently been a posturing gobshite on the subject of Corbyn.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It was always wishfull thinking that the current PLP could be dragged leftwards. If people want a left party they need to elect left MPs.

Which is kind of difficult when central office has over-ridden constituency selection powers for the last 20 years, and parachuted in bunches of Oxbridge shitwads.

 

[ViolentPanda]

He's just about democratic socialist.

Fucking hell

Ridiculous, isn't it? JC is all about Parliamentarism and democratic socialism. If anyone thinks he's "too far left", they have little or no idea of what leftism is.

 

[ViolentPanda]

A work colleague today said to me 'well, I'd rather have a right-wing Labour than the Tories'.

Why? They both fuck us over. They both have the net result of allowing austerity and cuts to be passed through parliament.

The choice between having to eat a straight shit sandwich, and a shit sandwich with a minty garnish.

Personally, I prefer not having to eat a shit sandwich.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It'd be nice if that were the case, if only for the shits it would put up so many Blairites who got their seats through being imposed on CLP selection committees.

 

[redsquirrel]

Again updated the list of resigners with their position on the welfare vote

Chris Bryant abstained
Karl Turner abstained
Hillary Benn abstained
Heidi Alexander abstained
Gloria de Piero abstained
Lucy Powell abstained
Lilian Greenwood abstained
Ian Murray abstained
Kerry McCarthy abstained
Seema Malhotra abstained
Vernon Coaker abstained

Roberta Blackman-Woods abstained
Luciana Berger abstained
Neil Coyle abstained
Alex Cunningham abstained
Wayne David abstained
Angela Eagle abstained
Maria Eagle abstained
Yvonne Fovargue abstained
Kate Green abstained
Nia Griffiths abstained
John Healy abstained
Diana Johnson abstained
Lisa Nandy abstained
Toby Perkins abstained
Jess Philips abstained
Steve Reed abstained
Ruth Smeeth abstained
Owen Smith abstained
Karen Smyth abstained
Nick Thomas-Symonds abstained

Kier Stamer abstained
Jack Dromey abstained
Stephen Kinnick abstained