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James Purnell: 'man of compassion'

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A walk in the park – James Purnell on life after cabinet

In his first interview since resignation, ex-minister on New Labour's failings – and the challenge ahead

* Allegra Stratton, political correspondent
* guardian.co.uk, Friday 17 July 2009 19.58 BST
* Article history

James Purnell

On Thursday morning in a cafe by the Thames near Tower Bridge, James Purnell can see wild flowers with big purple heads, fronds of water reeds and roller-skating children on school holiday – a Kodak moment that encapsulates why he'll probably never stand to be leader of the Labour party. This is his "walk in the park" test. Can the leader of a political party go for a walk in the park, or a bike ride on Sunday, and not be trailed by special branch? Purnell's observations of his political mentor, Tony Blair, led him to conclude no. "I don't miss TV interviews," Purnell says of his previous life, leaning back in his chair. "I don't miss doing the Today programme, with great respect. Not having a weekend, I don't miss. I love having a weekend. I love not having a red box hanging over me." Five weeks out of frontline politics appear to have done him good. His sideburns seem in rude health. He has a tan and is lightly freckled, and he has traded his ministerial suit for a pair of fashionable indigo jeans.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jul/17/james-purnell-resignation-first-interview

George Orwell once wrote a brilliant essay: 'Politics and the English Language' in which he discussed the degradation of political language, surely no where is this clearer than Purnells article in the Guardian (what is it playing at?) in which James Purnell, the former DWP secretary asserts that

"Individuals," Purnell thinks, "collapse under the weight of their autonomy. It is important, but people don't want to feel alone – they want to feel protected and they also have a concept of a good society based on compassion for others."

He is now running a project at Demos, in which he aims to 'reinvent the Left' and will even co-operate with left wing former MP's like Alan Simpson, citing the influence on Amartya Sen's recent writing on capabilities he argues that "I think they leave out the compassion we have towards strangers which is at the root of being an egalitarian."

Well, imo, its a funny sort of left wing and compassionate behaviour whose legacy will be the second Welfare Reform Act which will see discredited private training companies making millions from forced labour, which will see unemployed and disabled people coerced into cheap labour wearing 'community payback style yellow bibs and where such claimants will face much more harrassment, benefit cuts, etc.

There are too many of these types who infest the so called 'progressive think tanks like the IPPR, who degrade left wing values by dressing up neo-liberal ideas as left wing, one also notes he is basically for open borders, as is the IPPR and other Blairite think tanks. It also makes it very difficult for a genuine Left when such creatures as Purnell, Hain,McShane, etc distort and manipulate what it means to be on the Left

WE need another Orwell to expose and deconstruct this sophistry but where is this Orwell when we need him or her?

btw, i wouldn't be surprised if the Guardian journo who goes by the name of Allegra, is a friend/aquaintance of Purnells, this is hagiography not journalism!
 
Unfortunately capitalism is unable to deal with abolishing Unemployment, or should I say creating full employment.

The power dynamics that exist in and around the superstrucutre created by the care industry under capitalism finds it in their interest to keep many of its clients in this negative situation on benefits.
 
This is scheming stuff. Purnell wants to be a Name in opposition. Note the appeal to 'what worked' from new labour and what didn't.

I don't think he believed a word of what he said in that article.
 
i haven't been able to read the article due to the red mist that obscures my eyesight whenever i see a picture of the cunt, but i remain confident that he's still a massive shit who deserves a slow, painful death.

can i assume there's nothing in the article to change my mind?
 
i haven't been able to read the article due to the red mist that obscures my eyesight whenever i see a picture of the cunt, but i remain confident that he's still a massive shit who deserves a slow, painful death.

can i assume there's nothing in the article to change my mind?

no, despite the journo's nauseating soft-soap approach to Purnell. Purnell getting an easy ride in a left of centre newspaper. Gah.
 
Unfortunately capitalism is unable to deal with abolishing Unemployment, or should I say creating full employment.
Even under a command economy it's impossible to "create full employment" that delivers meaningful and worthwhile jobs to the entire working population.
The power dynamics that exist in and around the superstrucutre created by the care industry under capitalism finds it in their interest to keep many of its clients in this negative situation on benefits.
The (asymmetric) power-relation issues are the same in most business structures under the superstructure of capitalism. Minimal agency to one party, maximum agency to the other. That's par for the course. Perhaps you should stop trying to include ideas you've just read in posts where they don't really need to be?
 
This is scheming stuff. Purnell wants to be a Name in opposition. Note the appeal to 'what worked' from new labour and what didn't.
And yet you get the distinct impression from that article that he isn't talking about "what works" in a sense of pragmatic governance, but in a sense of "one of Tony's slogans was 'what works', so I'll just throw that out there for any Blairite media folk to see".
I don't think he believed a word of what he said in that article.
I suspect you're right. :(
 
Even under a command economy it's impossible to "create full employment" that delivers meaningful and worthwhile jobs to the entire working population.

The (asymmetric) power-relation issues are the same in most business structures under the superstructure of capitalism. Minimal agency to one party, maximum agency to the other. That's par for the course. Perhaps you should stop trying to include ideas you've just read in posts where they don't really need to be?

Maybe to stimulate discussion?
 
The thought of many people contributing to society fills them with dread, this culture is not positive or productive for society.

Absolutely wrong.
Capitalism positively encourages people making a contribution to society, as long as the contribution is on terms set by capitalism.
 
"Individuals," Purnell thinks, "collapse under the weight of their autonomy."

Translation: ordinary mortals are too stupid to run their own lives.

I wonder if the cunt really believes that his political worldview is based on compassion. Maybe he has such a dim view of humanity, and such a rose-tinted view of economic productivity, that he genuinely thinks that people should be denied the right to choice; that they should be treated as components to be slotted into the machine wherever they are required and consigned to the scrapheap when they are not.
 
Translation: ordinary mortals are too stupid to run their own lives.

I wonder if the cunt really believes that his political worldview is based on compassion. Maybe he has such a dim view of humanity, and such a rose-tinted view of economic productivity, that he genuinely thinks that people should be denied the right to choice; that they should be treated as components to be slotted into the machine wherever they are required and consigned to the scrapheap when they are not.

yeah, right. I don't think he believes in anything other than 'James Purnell deserves power and the attendant benefits of power'
 
All very well if you actually understand what you're talking about, but often your posts appear to be a hodge-podge of ideas with little connection to either each other or the thread itself.

Enlighten me on the subject then?:p

Although this is a public forum perhaps, its not the same as writing an article?
Playing around with different concepts and ideas maybe useful for discussion!
 
Translation: ordinary mortals are too stupid to run their own lives.

I wonder if the cunt really believes that his political worldview is based on compassion. Maybe he has such a dim view of humanity, and such a rose-tinted view of economic productivity, that he genuinely thinks that people should be denied the right to choice; that they should be treated as components to be slotted into the machine wherever they are required and consigned to the scrapheap when they are not.

I suspect, given his lack of contact with "the real world", that he genuinely does think that "people" (i.e. those that are lesser beings than such as himself) should be handled as sheep, guided, used and disciplined by paternalists such as himself. He probably read Edward Bernays when other kids were reading A.A. Milne.
 
Enlighten me on the subject then?:p
Which subject? You dab your toes in so many!
Although this is a public forum perhaps, its not the same as writing an article?
Playing around with different concepts and ideas maybe useful for discussion!
Not of they're not particularly relevant. Then they're just a distraction.
 
Absolutely wrong.
Capitalism positively encourages people making a contribution to society, as long as the contribution is on terms set by capitalism.

Not so. Capitalism encourages people making a contribution to capital, sometimes that contribution may also benefit society as a whole.
 
Allegra appears to be a mate of Purnell's or at very least a career friendly stalker, she's his reliable go-to journo. Expect his other establishment mates to be offering similiar puff pieces over the enxt year.
 
It is very hard to accept that purnell is looking out for anyone other than himself.a loathesome nu labour turd
 
It is very hard to accept that purnell is looking out for anyone other than himself.a loathesome nu labour turd

Who would become "old Labour" or "new nu-Labour" in an instant if he saw long-term political benefit for himself in such a move. A turd indeed.
 
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