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Is there a reason for the riots?

Rutita1 said:
No Rory, bring it to me, state your case or fuck off yourself. I am not a coward or intimidated by your bad language and grudge holding.

You got banned because you fucked up, don't blame me for it!
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It was you that told me to fuck off and informed me that I was part of the problem just prior to my banning .. let's have some discourse but you better start imo

ps .. Truxta .. go and fuck off mate
 
rorymac said:
It was you that told me to fuck off and informed me that I was part of the problem just prior to my banning .. let's have some discourse but you better start imo
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I don't have to start anything :) However, okay:

The term 'uncle tom' is inappropriate and anyone who uses it is part of a greater/wider problem in my opinion.

Happy to take this to PM also. Up to you.
 
Nah. Don't jump in with personal shit like that in a thread like this. As I said above, take a deep breath or two. This is another call-out, and you don't need to go there.

At rory ffs.
 
ska invita said:
Just watched a bit of 8 out of 10 cats and Peter Serafinowicz was laughing at someone posing with a bag of tesco rice in a post-riot photo. There were quite a few cases I've seen in the media (photos and video) of people steeling big bags of rice. I think its telling that people think they just 'lucked out' and ended up with rice - if you're living on fuck all a big bag of rice is a staple and costs a lot - sums up the reality divide i think.
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Posting this on this thread to reiterate that of course poverty is a key part of these riots.
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They are clearly the Avant-garde.
 
"At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality."
— Ernesto Guevara
 
Rutita1 said:
I don't have to start anything :) However, okay:

The term 'uncle tom' is inappropriate and anyone who uses it is part of a greater/wider problem in my opinion.

Happy to take this to PM also. Up to you.
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I don't regret for one second using the term 'uncle tom' .. I know exactly what it means Rutita1
I already apologised pre banning in case the terminology caused offence .. I know exactly what it means and I stand by it.
I also rubberstamp what I posted re Diane Abbott .. that is where our problems lay imo
 
Rutita1 said:
Or hungry? :facepalm:
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TruXta said:
Nah. Don't jump in with personal shit like that in a thread like this. As I said above, take a deep breath or two. This is another call-out, and you don't need to go there.

At rory ffs.
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Like I said .. shut up and piss off Truxta
As per when it comes down to it it's the usual script .. as can be seen in the bin when I wanted dialogue with Rutita1 I was either going to be banned or she'd just go to bed .. good for her but I aint going away.
I'll post what the fuck I like and I'll never give a shit if it causes offence to luvvies such as her!
She can label me racist, sexist, offensive all she likes
pffffft
 
rorymac said:
Like I said .. shut up and piss off Truxta
As per when it comes down to it it's the usual script .. as can be seen in the bin when I wanted dialogue with Rutita1 I was either going to be banned or she'd just go to bed .. good for her but I aint going away.
I'll post what the fuck I like and I'll never give a shit if it causes offence to luvvies such as her!
She can label me racist, sexist, offensive all she likes
pffffft
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You are calling me a luvvie now? :D

I don't regret for one second using the term 'uncle tom' .. I know exactly what it means Rutita1. I already apologised pre banning in case the terminology caused offence .. I know exactly what it means and I stand by it.I also rubberstamp what I posted re Diane Abbott .. that is where our problems lay imo
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Go away Rory. I don't care what you think you know or what you rubberstamp/standby. Until you find a way of expressing yourself without using racialised insults the conversation you say you want will not happen.

You are also derailing this thread, when again like the time you got yourself banned, if you wanted to discuss something with me you could have done it in private.
 
ska invita said:
Just watched a bit of 8 out of 10 cats and Peter Serafinowicz was laughing at someone posing with a bag of tesco rice in a post-riot photo. There were quite a few cases I've seen in the media (photos and video) of people steeling big bags of rice. I think its telling that people think they just 'lucked out' and ended up with rice - if you're living on fuck all a big bag of rice is a staple and costs a lot - sums up the reality divide i think.
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Posting this on this thread to reiterate that of course poverty is a key part of these riots.
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That looks like Tesco value as well. Almost as depressing as people looting poundland :( I mean if you're going to risk looting you might as well take something worth it!
 
_angel_ said:
That looks like Tesco value as well. Almost as depressing as people looting poundland :( I mean if you're going to risk looting you might as well take something worth it!
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I know what you mean but at the same time we may be underestimating the 'worth' of a bag of rice.
 
Transcript of an interesting talk by Paul Gilroy here - sort of emphasises the difference i suggested earlier between the 80s response and today:

When you look at the layer of political leaders from our communities, the generation who came of age during that time thirty years ago, many of those people have accepted the logic of privatization. They've privatized that movement, and they've sold their services as consultants and managers and diversity trainers. They've sold their services to the police, they've sold them to the army, they've sold them to the corporate world...go to some of their websites and you'll see how proud they are of their clients. And that means that, in many areas, the loss of experience, the loss of the imagination is a massive phenomenon. So that the young people in the courts today don't have a defence campaign. They don't have one yet, but I hope that one will develop.

So a lot of that leadership has been channeled into the local government, and has formed a kind of "consultariat." And if you want to understand what that means, you have to look at places like South Africa, where, in the process after the end of apartheid, a whole layer of militants, a whole layer of people went over, and they got their pensions, and they sold this, and they sold that, because the government, in changing that society, thought that having a Black middle class was going to be the way to do it. Well, that's not the way it's going to work here. [applause]
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rorymac said:
Jesus Christ .. surrounded by halfwits all my life !!!
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Look at it this way - at least you felt "at home", mate.

BTW, defending your missus - very chivalrous, but not on - gives people the idea that the Dorises can't look after themselves, know what I mean?

TBF she'll make you pay for it later. Probably glass you or something.
 
Rutita1 said:
Not sure what you are referring to here.
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Sorry. This link: http://dreamofsafety.blogspot.com/2011/08/paul-gilroy-speaks-on-riots-august-2011.html?spref=fb that Butcher's posted.

It says it's a speech given by Paul Gilroy in Tottenham. I was wondering if it was something he said at the Coalition of Resistance bash, which I had assumed you had attended based on your comments about the prioritisation of a defence campaign being set up?

Apols for crossed wires if not.
 
Rutita1 said:
I know what you mean but at the same time we may be underestimating the 'worth' of a bag of rice.
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I don't know, I think people might be reading too much into it. I can't imagine an awful lot of thought goes on when people are looting, it's just grab grab grab.
Except for that woman that was pictured trying on some trainers!
 
Fozzie Bear said:
Sorry. This link: http://dreamofsafety.blogspot.com/2011/08/paul-gilroy-speaks-on-riots-august-2011.html?spref=fb that Butcher's posted.

It says it's a speech given by Paul Gilroy in Tottenham. I was wondering if it was something he said at the Coalition of Resistance bash, which I had assumed you had attended based on your comments about the prioritisation of a defence campaign being set up?

Apols for crossed wires if not.
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I unfortunately didn't attend the meeting that Prof Gilroy spoke at but was at the one that took place last night, which is what informed my post above :)

I did though post something coming from Gilroy the other day on this thread:

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threa...looting-aug-2011.278879/page-24#post-10361886
 
The key to understanding rory is to get to grips with the idea that he sincerely believes that if anyone claims to have done something he hasn't then they must be lying. This is because he is a sad and boring individual leading a dull life, but with an ego so enormous that he can't believe he isn't the most interesting person on the planet. Best thing is to simply read his dafter posts for the laughs and never attempt to communicate with the twat.
 
You must be joking eric .. your post doesn't even make sense. Forget about me or my ego and your silly appreciation of it as giant I was directly attempting to communicate my ire when I saw Diane Abbot's comments the day after I was on the streets of Enfield. Because I used the term 'Uncle Tom' which is how I felt about her I was told to 'fuck off' by the esteemed Rutita 1.
I wasn't about to do that and I attempted to communicate with her in straight forward fashion. I am still incensed by Diane Abbott's comments which after all show the measure of the person in that they were her first reactions to something that is now over a week old.
You can stick your twat comment right up your arse as well you dullard.
As for Rutita1 I express myself how I see fit and care little how you view the same .. got that ?
Thank you very much !!
 
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