Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[teuchter]

I'm no expert on all this but reading the last few posts it does seem a bit like a few urban75 posters are suspiciously defensive of the FBI.

 

[two sheds]

We are and the invoice is late this month

 

[agricola]

The amazing thing about these tin foil wankers is how utterly naive they are while thinking they're uniquely savvy.

... whilst all believing exactly the same things

 

[NoXion]

I'm no expert on all this but reading the last few posts it does seem a bit like a few urban75 posters are suspiciously defensive of the FBI.

 

[moochedit]

We are and the invoice is late this month

Yeah bastards! i heard putin pays better. Thinking of putting my notice in

 

[pbsmooth]

Incredible to see someone so ignorant as to believe the Musk free speech bullshit after all this time. Endless examples of his hypocrisy on this. Maybe do some reading outside your echo chamber.

 

[Rob Ray]

... whilst all believing exactly the same things

Odd that they've not all been silenced really - it's almost as though the Deep State doesn't give a single fuck about all these revelations.

 

[moochedit]

It doubt me, just Google "Taibbi files."

No they might come for me if i do that!

 

[BigMoaner]

No they might come for me if i do that!

Use a VPN or something!? Whatever you do!

 

[BigMoaner]

No they might come for me if i do that!

My post of the week

 

[two sheds]

Odd that they've not all been silenced really - it's almost as though the Deep State doesn't give a single fuck about all these revelations.

Yes but what about all the revelations they've silenced that we won't have heard about because they've silenced them.

Prove they haven't, come on I'm waiting.

 

[teuchter]

We are and the invoice is late this month

I'd assumed it would be you invoicing the FBI but I'll not ask any more questions as it sounds like the arrangement is even more sinister than I imagined.

 

[8ball]

Do some research you say?

We used to call it “reading”.

Very 19th Century.

 

[agricola]

Odd that they've not all been silenced really - it's almost as though the Deep State doesn't give a single fuck about all these revelations.

On the contrary - its profoundly useful for the people in charge to have the wider population divided amongst itself, as we can see by the amount of money they've devoted over decades to that very purpose.

 

[two sheds]

I'd assumed it would be you invoicing the FBI but I'll not ask any more questions as it sounds like the arrangement is even more sinister than I imagined.

Have you not got a socks thread to start?

*socks thread arf arf

 

[moochedit]

I'd assumed it would be you invoicing the FBI but I'll not ask any more questions as it sounds like the arrangement is even more sinister than I imagined.

Trust me there's no paperwork

 

[mojo pixy]

Incredible to see someone so ignorant as to believe the Musk free speech bullshit after all this time. Endless examples of his hypocrisy on this. Maybe do some reading outside your echo chamber.

It's weird, as if being censored by Elon Musk is somehow better than being censored by the FBI .. is that where we are atm? Just checking.

 

[Rob Ray]

I don't think they've needed to spend much money on this at all tbh, it's all being concocted for them. Why pay for disinformation when grifters and loons will do it for free?

 

[BigMoaner]

The pre-Musk Twitter was heavily censored by the FBI. That state control isn't possible any longer, and that's why they want to prevent or at least discourage people from reading it.

I mean we take it for granted these days, so common, so predictable this type of comment is, “post truth” and all that, but read this back slowly and carefully and try and grasp the utter derangement within it. Really grasp it.

 

[BigMoaner]

This to them is the brave war for Logic and Truth

 

[mojo pixy]

I don't think they've needed to spend much money on this at all tbh, it's all being concocted for them. Why pay for disinformation when grifters and loons will do it for free?

'Influencer' culture, here we are

 

[phildwyer]

I mean we take it for granted these days, so common, so predictable this type of comment is, “post truth” and all that, but read this back slowly and carefully and try and grasp the utter derangement within it. Really grasp it.

You're veering between the following (equally mad imho) positions. Can you pick just one for clarity?

1. The FBI does not exist.
2. The FBI exists, but never does anything.
3. The FBI does do stuff, but it does not censor.
4. The FBI does censor, but it didn't censor Twitter.
5. The FBI did censor Twitter, but only in a very polite and optional way.
6. The FBI censored Twitter in a coercive way, but that was good because it repressed pro-Trump opinion.

 

[BigMoaner]

I mean we take it for granted these days, so common, so predictable this type of comment is, “post truth” and all that, but read this back slowly and carefully and try and grasp the utter derangement within it. Really grasp it.

Also another interesting thing is that there’s no real entry point into his argument because it’s so deranged. It’s so different to culture wars in the past where x person would say “I think we should stop immigration cos the country is over run”. So okay, unpleasant as that view is, you can enter into it as a debating point. But Phil’s comment, where do you even start?

 

[phildwyer]

Also another interesting thing is that there’s no real entry point into his argument because it’s so deranged. It’s so different to culture wars in the past where x person would say “I think we should stop immigration cos the country is over run”. So okay, unpleasant as that view is, you can enter into it as a debating point. But Phil’s comment, where do you even start?

You are now responding to your own posts. Amber alert.

 

[BigMoaner]

You're veering between the following (equally mad imho) positions. Can you pick just one for clarity?

1. The FBI does not exist.
2. The FBI exists, but never does anything.
3. The FBI does do stuff, but it does not censor.
4. The FBI does censor, but it didn't censor Twitter.
5. The FBI did censor Twitter, but only in a very polite and optional way.
6. The FBI censored Twitter in a coercive way, but that was good because it repressed pro-Trump opinion.

Number 7. Which was yours: “the fbi used to censor twitter, now they can’t do that, so they are trying to put people off it by other means.”

 

[phildwyer]

Number 7. Which was yours: “the fbi used to censor twitter, now they can’t do that, so they are trying to put people off it by other means.”

That's right. Which bit don't you agree with?

 

[two sheds]

The bit that Musk isn't censoring Twitter at all now.

 

[phildwyer]

The bit that Musk isn't censoring Twitter at all now.

Of course he is.

 

[Rob Ray]

You're veering between the following (equally mad imho) positions. Can you pick just one for clarity?

1. The FBI does not exist.
2. The FBI exists, but never does anything.
3. The FBI does do stuff, but it does not censor.
4. The FBI does censor, but it didn't censor Twitter.
5. The FBI did censor Twitter, but only in a very polite and optional way.
6. The FBI censored Twitter in a coercive way, but that was good because it repressed pro-Trump opinion.

Seriously given how often you ask other people to read you're extraordinarily bad at comprehending what's being written.

 

[Storm Fox]

Number 7. Which was yours: “the fbi used to censor twitter, now they can’t do that, so they are trying to put people off it by other means.”

And by that 'logic' it follows that Musk must be an FBI agent by making twitter a censored, shittier, hate filled dumpster fire of platform to dissuade people from using because otherwise, it would be a [checks notes] a bastion of free speech run by [double checks notes] Musk.