Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[StakerOne]

A StakerOne FACT!

Yes, it's a fact that ESG benefits the fucking rich.

Oh and a little prediction for you.

ESG will eventually be bad for the environment and bad for social justice as sure as night follows day.

That's what happens when too many people can't recognise fascism when it's literally staring them right in the face.

I've run out fucks to give, so I'll check back in on this thread in a few weeks. Bet you can't wait!

 

[two sheds]

Funny how fascists accuse lots of people of fascism, muddies the water somewhat.

Of course ESG is largely greenwashing by corporates, fascism has a particular meaning though - like your mate DeSantis who's a proper fascist who you have minor policy differences with.

 

[Humberto]

Also the fetishising of national symbols that nobody can ever live up to in reality, because of... pick your ham-fist conspiracy theory.

 

[Ax^]

rick fuck complaining that other rich fucks aren't boosting his credit rating anymore because of his own company business fraud

that something the average worker should get upset about

 

[teqniq]

Also, since you have now returned, Staker, can you finally explain to us what you think critical race theory actually says?

The only reason he's 'returned' is because he's been banned from posting on the rise of fascism in the US thread so he though he'd impart his pearls of wisdom (sorry shit all over) on this thread instead.

 

[kabbes]

He’s the embodiment of alt-right buzzword bingo, with no idea what any of the words he’s using actually mean. They’re just Bad Things that Bad People do.

 

[Cid]

Whether it's market driven or regulator driven is merely a point of view, depending on which way round you're holding a piece of paper. It would be like arguing which came first, the chicken or the egg.

The egg, obviously.

 

[NoXion]

It completly by-passes democracy and tranparency. Who gets to decide whether policies are good for the environment, are socially responsible etc?

It's a business framework. It involves companies and organisations deciding their own policies with regards to social and environmental issues, just as they've always done. Except this time they're claiming to be more conscientious about it. It no more bypasses democracy and transparency than typical corporate operations do.

If you've got a problem with that, then you've got a problem with the way corporations and non-cooperative organisations have always operated under capitalism. So why single out ESG?

The EU (That centralised fascist power) has already passed legislation that forces large ESG compliant firms to only use other ESG compliant firms.

Which legislation is that, exactly? Because according to this: Understanding EU ESG Regulation in 2023: A Guide for Exporters there's nothing about what you're claiming. As far as I can tell, the EU legislation discussed in the link concerns ensuring that companies which make claims towards being ESG compliant are actually doing so, rather than merely greenwashing.

Now sure, you can doubt the effectiveness of the legislation. Regulating corporations, actually holding them to the standards they claim to adhere to, isn't fascist, and you just sound like an idiot by claiming so.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm putting you on ignore to improve everyone's experience of this thread.

If you really wanted to improve everyone's experience you'd just stop posting

 

[Orang Utan]

Yes because talk doesn't stop the conspiracy. Action including innovation does.

Decentralisation is the answer, that's why the fascists are so afraid of it.

That's the reason why there is NO material difference between a socialist and a fascist.

Both want to remove the burden of choice from the people, both think they know bettter than the people, both love to bypass the accepted norms of democracy and the trappings of democracy, such as free-speech.

ESG is the work of fascists, that's not a conspiracy theory, that's a fact.

You don’t know what fascism is.
You’re the muppet who claimed the Founding Fathers of the USA had the wisdom to foresee fascism

 

[Rimbaud]

He’s the embodiment of alt-right buzzword bingo, with no idea what any of the words he’s using actually mean. They’re just Bad Things that Bad People do.

Has "Cultural Marxism" reared its head yet? Need that for the full house.

 

[kabbes]

Has "Cultural Marxism" reared its head yet? Need that for the full house.

Really close — statements about “Marxism” in reference to cultural factors — but we don’t quite yet have the crucial phrase itself.

 

[hitmouse]

ESG is the work of fascists, that's not a conspiracy theory, that's a fact.

They've been getting away with it for too long!

 

[hitmouse]

Don't get me started on the Bush Tetras, etc.

 

[Pickman's model]

Don't get me started on the Bush Tetras, etc.

Let me at him hold me back

 

[Yossarian]

I know that posting any more evidence to support the point that Elon Musk is an evil, far-right, transphobic piece of shit is redundant, but holy shit.

 

[Cid]

I know that posting any more evidence to support the point that Elon Musk is an evil, far-right, transphobic piece of shit is redundant, but holy shit.

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I went on the twats out of morbid curiosity, and he's also been having 'multifaceted conversations on issues ranging from energy to spirituality' with Modi. Fantastic.

 

[Ax^]

I know that posting any more evidence to support the point that Elon Musk is an evil, far-right, transphobic piece of shit is redundant, but holy shit.

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not sure when this was dated but did he no saying June the 1st that he would more or less allow the misused of pronouns on twitter


of course but not against the most maligned group straight white men

musk still trying to complete his right wing cunt bingo card


next why racist effect white men the most

 

[BigMoaner]

debord's Society of the Spectacle comes to mind. I actually see these platforms as dehumanising, subject-capturing. Renounce. delete the fucking thing. free up all that mental space.

 

[BigMoaner]

I know that posting any more evidence to support the point that Elon Musk is an evil, far-right, transphobic piece of shit is redundant, but holy shit.

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imagine being a billionaire and you end up posting this.

 

[Ax^]

imagine being a billionaire who more than likely paid the guy to post it

 

[bimble]

Anyone seen stats on number of twitter active users now compared to pre-musk time?
(I know I’m in a little bubble but at a guess around 2/3 or more of the accounts I was following have left, do not use it anymore).

 

[BigMoaner]

Anyone seen stats on number of twitter active users now compared to pre-musk time?
(I know I’m in a little bubble but at a guess around 2/3 or more of the accounts I was following have left, do not use it anymore).

i guess there comes a point of the realisation that every minute spent on the thing is lining this man-toddler's pockets. a choice has to be made.

 

[BigMoaner]

I know that posting any more evidence to support the point that Elon Musk is an evil, far-right, transphobic piece of shit is redundant, but holy shit.

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and also, aren't they supposed to be the brave strong ones always complaining about people's sensitivities. both of these gimps sound like the biggest whingers going.

 

[Ax^]

they are brave strong men but you forget they are also always the victims

 

[BigMoaner]

they are brave strong men but you forget they are also always the victims

the first one - it's like he's just done six bottles of whine, so cringey. wankers. i'm glad my culture war involvement is confined to arguing with the tradesmen here at work (which actually never turns nasty, and we are all good friends).

 

[Elpenor]

Now planning to have a cage fight with Zuckerberg

Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg agree to hold cage fight

Earlier this month, Meta showed staff plans for a text-based social network designed to compete with Twitter.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[BigMoaner]

Now planning to have a cage fight with Zuckerberg

Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg agree to hold cage fight

Earlier this month, Meta showed staff plans for a text-based social network designed to compete with Twitter.

www.bbc.co.uk

these twats

 

[BigMoaner]

 

[kabbes]

Reading the story, I get the impression that this is Big Mouth Elon who thinks he can say anything with no consequences coming up against Robot Zuckerberg, who can’t compute irony and fully intends to inflict a Fatality in the ring. I no longer even bother trying to second guess where this stuff goes next.