Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[DownwardDog]

For properly shit design look at the big semi truck. A nice, central driving position. What a good idea.

“Brilliant” say people who actually drive them for a living, “what do we do when we get to a toll booth”

In the US all tolls are cashless via the appallingly named E-ZPass system now. You pay with a credit card triggered by a transponder in the vehicle.

 

[BigMoaner]

 

[NoXion]

you don't get many polygons for your money do you

It still looks unfinished.

 

[danny la rouge]

Jared Kushnor, Matthias Dopfner, David Sacks, Jason Calacanis...

I know none of those names. Any reason I need to, or am I OK just going with “alt right crypto bros and sex offenders”?

 

[DotCommunist]

It still looks unfinished.

I'd wait for an electric transit/sprinter/movano

I know none of those names. Any reason I need to, or am I OK just going with “alt right crypto bros and sex offenders”?

first ones an in law son to trump.

 

[agricola]

LOL. LMAO.

from the website selling it:

With the ability to pull near infinite mass and a towing capability of over 14,000 pounds, Cybertruck can perform in almost any extreme situation with ease.

if the sentences are constructed that badly, god help the truck

 

[danny la rouge]

I'd wait for an electric transit/sprinter/movano

first ones an in law son to trump.

Ah, OK, now you mention it it does ring a bell. Reinforces my overview mind you.

 

[strung out]

I know none of those names. Any reason I need to, or am I OK just going with “alt right crypto bros and sex offenders”?

Jared Kushner is Donald Trump's son in law. David Sacks was one of the guys behind PayPal. Don't know the other two.

 

[weltweit]

The truck is one ugly sob ..

 

[weltweit]

Does anyone remember when Musk tried to demonstrate the unbreakable side windows on the truck, by breaking them!

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

In the US all tolls are cashless via the appallingly named E-ZPass system now. You pay with a credit card triggered by a transponder in the vehicle.

Not all are yet apparently. And anyone driving a truck in and out of warehouses/distribution centres/factories/building sites inevitably has paperwork to be passed back and forth at gates, entry points and so on.

It's a classic example of people designing something without actually having awareness of how it's used in the real world. The fucking windows don't even wind down to allow passing of said paperwork or talking to anyone

 

[strung out]

Does anyone remember when Musk tried to demonstrate the unbreakable side windows on the truck, by breaking them!

 

[weltweit]

Whatever else, Musk is past peak wealth, I don't think the Tesla valuation will ever again reach its dizzying peak.

And if he has borrowed against its value, he may yet be in trouble.

 

[xenon]

Not all are yet apparently. And anyone driving a truck in and out of warehouses/distribution centres/factories/building sites inevitably has paperwork to be passed back and forth at gates, entry points and so on.

It's a classic example of people designing something without actually having awareness of how it's used in the real world. The fucking windows don't even wind down to allow passing of said paperwork or talking to anyone

Also, how do you get your lunch at the drive through?

 

[weltweit]

..
The fucking windows don't even wind down to allow passing of said paperwork or talking to anyone

What? the windows don't wind down? what?

 

[kabbes]

from the website selling it:



if the sentences are constructed that badly, god help the truck

What the hell is “near infinite mass” supposed to mean?

 

[Flavour]

What the hell is “near infinite mass” supposed to mean?

14,000 lb. that's nearly infinite, kabbes. everyone knows numbers just stop somewhere around there.

 

[xenon]

What the hell is “near infinite mass” supposed to mean?

Your mum, etc.

(Sorry couldn't resist, )

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

What? the windows don't wind down? what?

The Tesla Semi Has A Weird And Annoying Issue With Its Windows - The Autopian

Truckers are pointing out that the Tesla Semi has a weird issue with its windows. They don't actually open, instead popping out like a minivan's windows.

www.theautopian.com

 

[Santino]

 

[story]

Jaubrey doing a take down of Musk.

Its quite long (38 minutes), and of you want to look at receipts and evidence you need to pause to read. I’ve listened to it once on increased speed to get the story, and watched it while pausing to check the sources.

I don’t know how accurate it is, or how reliable Jaubrey is as an investigative reporter but theres some pretty damning stuff in here.







chapters:

 

[Storm Fox]

14,000 lb. that's nearly infinite, kabbes. everyone knows numbers just stop somewhere around there.

That's about the same as Ford F150:

The redesigned 2021 Ford F-150 has even stronger capabilities to take on fierce competition from the likes of the Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Ram 1500, Toyota Tundra and GMC Sierra 1500. Towing and payload capacities have risen with the latest F-150, up to a class-leading 14,000-pound maximum (class-leading at the time of publication, anyway). A full-hybrid powertrain also joins an already extensive lineup of engines. But how do you unlock the best towing capabilities for each motor? And let’s not forget the myriad ways an F-150 customer can mix and match cabin size, cargo beds and towing option packages. Relax, because this handy guide breaks down everything you need to know about the towing capacity of every variation of the 2021 Ford F-150.

From https://www.cars.com/articles/breaking-down-the-2021-ford-f-150s-towing-capacities-433112/

The Tesla website has very little detail.

 

[magneze]

Twitter sued for not paying San Francisco office rent | Engadget

The owner of the Hartford Building in San Francisco, the home of Twitter HQ, is suing the social media company for failing to pay $136,250 in rent..

www.engadget.com

 

[Ax^]

from the website selling it:



if the sentences are constructed that badly, god help the truck

selling a work truck to people who will never use it for work


could take off in the states saying that

anyone who need a vehicle for this role is not going to fork out 70 grand for the privilege

even if you were daft enough to contemplate it , why would you wreak it when the flat bed is so small

 

[AmateurAgitator]

 

[ddraig]

who is the video by?
don't just post youtube vids with no context

 

[pbsmooth]

if you're wondering which way the Tesla stock will be heading...

2023 Predictions | No Mercy / No Malice

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www.profgalloway.com

 

[kabbes]

if you're wondering which way the Tesla stock will be heading...

2023 Predictions | No Mercy / No Malice

Every year we make predictions. The purpose is to inspire a conversation. We also try to hold ourselves accountable. Here are some of our predictions for 2023. 2023: Patagonia Vest Recession The business story of 2022 was inflation. In 2023 it will be recession, and we’ll realize there are worse...

www.profgalloway.com

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The other car manufacturers’ P/E ratios seem bizarrely low compared with general industry. Technically, it means that if you buy VW, you’ll make your money back in 4.5 years and everything after that is profit. I wonder why it’s so low?

 

[kabbes]

Geez. According to this, Hyundai’s P/E is less than 3. It could buy back over a third of its shares based on one year’s earnings.

Must be to do with the capital intensive nature of the industry and its thin margins that are always at risk. Still, auto makers do look like good value at least based on this measure.

 

[8ball]

A belief that you're the only real person and everyone else is just a projection for your benefit is one of the classic symptoms of a sociopath.

Really? Is there a name for that particular belief (I mean specifically what you described, not "narcissism" or something)?