If winning in 2020 is the limit of your vision as a left-winger and you're backing Eagle and Owen as alternatives you're already a loser. You're backing losers in four years' time, a strategy guaranteeing 20 years of losing as the core Labour support base crumbles, a generation of US Democratic Party light politics with no parliamentary left worth the name for the forseeable. I'm not even in the party political camp and I'm astonished at how intent on losing people like you seem to be. I'm in awe. There's no way, as an anarchist, that I could dedicate myself so wholeheartedly to fucking up the social democratic project. Hats off to you.