Immigration to the UK - do you have concerns?

[krtek a houby]

Pages of discussion about what the petit bourgeois actually are, on a thread about immigration concerns; mostly avoiding the poster who posted about immigration concerns.

And lefties wonder why normal people think they're a bunch of wankers!

The petit stuff belongs on another thread. As does your obsessional far right take on left wing posters.

 

[krtek a houby]

Great. Fuck.taking the time to reply then.

Eh?

 

[cesare]

Yours and Kabbes' have been the only posts worth reading today.

Edit: apart from Gasper and those who bothered to engage with them.

Yours included

 

[cesare]

Eh?

Don't fucking start on me.

 

[krtek a houby]

Don't fucking start on me.

What are you on about?

 

[cesare]

What are you on about?

I don't know.why you started on me with your 'eh?"

What was it that made you start on me?

So, your "eh?"

Why are you challenging me and on what basis? Put up or shut up.

 

[Spymaster]

... far right take on left wing posters.

Yeah, regular Nazi, me.

You puerile tool.

 

[krtek a houby]

I don't know.why you started on me with your 'eh?"

What was it that made you start on me?

So, your "eh?"

Why are you challenging me and on what basis? Put up or shut up.

Your now edited post where you said "Great. Fuck.taking the time to reply then."

What was it supposed to mean, what was the context and who was it aimed at?

 

[mojo pixy]

I think it was provoked by Spymaster glibly dismissing everyone's input except for the posters he agrees with.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeah, regular Nazi, me.

You puerile tool.

Your constant denigrating of the left and name-calling indicates a right wing leaning.

Or is that just a "normal people" thing?

 

[cesare]

Your now edited post where you said "Great. Fuck.taking the time to reply then."

What was it supposed to mean, what was the context and who was it aimed at?

Wtf?

 

[krtek a houby]

I think it was provoked by Spymaster glibly dismissing everyone's input except for the posters he agrees with.

Ah. It does get confusing when alcohol is taken by some posters.

 

[cesare]

I think it was provoked by Spymaster glibly dismissing everyone's input except for the posters he agrees with.

He discussed mine too, wtf

 

[cesare]

Ah. It does get confusing when alcohol is taken by some posters.

Yeah how's that going for you and your attacks?

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeah how's that going for you and your attacks?

Who are you arguing with?

 

[Spymaster]

Ah. It does get confusing when alcohol is taken by some posters.

And here's me up early because I'm doing an airport drop-off.

Maybe don't judge others by your own low standards, Krtek?

 

[Humberto]

Leave him alone Spy

 

[cesare]

Leave him alone Spy

Agree. The.poster is challenged,.let them.be.

 

[krtek a houby]

And here's me up early because I'm doing an airport drop-off.

Maybe don't judge others by your own low standards, Krtek?

I'm sober thanks and also it's 9:35 am. Perhaps you should wind your neck in a bit, there's planes overhead.

 

[krtek a houby]

Agree. The.poster is challenged,.let them.be.

Classy.

 

[Humberto]

We've a fine tradition of underappreciating longstandig mad bastards. It won't always be like this in the Megaverse.

 

[Spymaster]

I'm sober thanks and also it's 9:35 am.

Half an hour longer than usual.

Congratulations!

 

[krtek a houby]

Half an hour longer than usual.

Congratulations!

Are you sure you're not pissed? No idea what you're banging on about.

 

[emanymton]

So the people complaining about the discussion around petite bourgeoisie have given us the last couple of pages.

Not exactly validation for saying the thread would be better without it.

 

[Gramsci]

Immigration figures: Drop in people coming to UK to work in NHS and social care

The decline comes after the former Conservative government introduced restrictions on foreign workers and their families in an effort to slash overall immigration.

www.bbc.co.uk

Less people applying for visas to work in healthcare.

Changes in rules like not being allowed to bring family are probably a factor.

Before the general election earlier this year, Labour pledged to reduce net migration. It has not set a target but said it aimed to reduce the UK’s reliance on foreign labour through workforce and training, particularly in key sectors such as health and construction.

Seema Malhotra, the minister for immigration, accused the previous Tory government of an "utter failure to tackle skills shortages which has left many employers dependent on recruiting from overseas".

But she vowed to continue some measures brought in by the previous government, including reducing the number of dependants able to join relatives in the UK.

The backlog in dealing with asylum cases is due to last government concentrating on the failed Rwanda scheme.

Looks to me that apart from Rwanda their is continuity between this government and the last on immigration policy. With this government going to show its more efficient.

Fact that Labour pledged less net migration - that I didn't know. Seems to me not that sensible thing to pledge. Even from perspective of those who support some controls. Ties the government hands if they cant train up people quickly enough.

 

[mojo pixy]

So the people complaining about the discussion around petite bourgeoisie have given us the last couple of pages.

Not exactly validation for saying the thread would be better without it.

I like the bits where someone plays the thread like a team game, I don't really know very much about these issues but I like Poster X's posts best. As if anyone cares

 

[lengualo]

Immigration figures: Drop in people coming to UK to work in NHS and social care

The decline comes after the former Conservative government introduced restrictions on foreign workers and their families in an effort to slash overall immigration.

www.bbc.co.uk

Less people applying for visas to work in healthcare.

Changes in rules like not being allowed to bring family are probably a factor.



The backlog in dealing with asylum cases is due to last government concentrating on the failed Rwanda scheme.

Looks to me that apart from Rwanda their is continuity between this government and the last on immigration policy. With this government going to show its more efficient.

Fact that Labour pledged less net migration - that I didn't know. Seems to me not that sensible thing to pledge. Even from perspective of those who support some controls. Ties the government hands if they cant train up people quickly enough.

I agree, but didnt Labour campaign that they'd invest in training and education so that industries arent as reliant on immigration in order to bring demand down and thus numbers down, rather than going on the offensive against immigration?

 

[krtek a houby]

Immigration figures: Drop in people coming to UK to work in NHS and social care

The decline comes after the former Conservative government introduced restrictions on foreign workers and their families in an effort to slash overall immigration.

www.bbc.co.uk

Less people applying for visas to work in healthcare.

Changes in rules like not being allowed to bring family are probably a factor.



The backlog in dealing with asylum cases is due to last government concentrating on the failed Rwanda scheme.

Looks to me that apart from Rwanda their is continuity between this government and the last on immigration policy. With this government going to show its more efficient.

Fact that Labour pledged less net migration - that I didn't know. Seems to me not that sensible thing to pledge. Even from perspective of those who support some controls. Ties the government hands if they cant train up people quickly enough.

Do wonder how governments can make that sort of pledge. Does it actually work? Did Brexit work (in that particular context)?

ETA: obviously having just read the BBC piece, applications are down!

 

[lazythursday]

Funny how a term (petite bourgeoise) can really rile people up and obscure the basic point, which is just that people who are self-employed tend to have different economic interests than those who work for a wage, and that affects their outlook on things. It's not an insult, or implying that someone is rich / up themselves or whatever.

 

[emanymton]

Funny how a term (petite bourgeoise) can really rile people up and obscure the basic point, which is just that people who are self-employed tend to have different economic interests than those who work for a wage, and that affects their outlook on things. It's not an insult, or implying that someone is rich / up themselves or whatever.

Exactly it is a dated term of phrase, but it is is just an analytical tool.