frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
its known as fucking first world problems.
Hundreds of women assaulted in German NYE celebrations
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its known as fucking first world problems.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
sorry, i was going with your 'another thing not much talked about'
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yet they'd rather talk about what some celeb was wearing than issues such as that.
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Starry Wisdom
never mind 1,000, it's when you get that level of coordination among 10,20,30 people that it's rather alarming. you'd have thought that some of them might go 'oh no, this isn't what i signed up for': but that appears not to have happened.
kittyP
Pluviophile
Maybe I am not explaining myself properly.
I don't think there is any problem with men gathering in groups.
My original comment re football was a satirical (?) response to Greebozz
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Starry Wisdom
in their opinion doubtless of great importance to womens' everyday lives.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
That's been a hotly-debated question for the last 70 years. There's some evidence that Stalin influenced troop deployments so that some of the most seasoned (and long-serving) troops were in the vanguard of the entry into Germany - blokes who hadn't seen their home districts in the Soviet north-east for 4 years. Stalin would have known that the likely consequence would be rape and looting.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Maybe I am not explaining myself properly.
I don't think there is any problem with men gathering in groups.
My original comment re football was a satirical (?) response to Greebozz
no worries, sorry.
kittyP
Pluviophile
Who would?
I am sure some people would much rather talk about a celeb than more serious women's issues but some are very much the opposite.
I thought you were referring to modern feminists?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
what i've read is that the first wave of soviet troops were well-behaved but were aware that the soldiers in subsequent waves would be less disciplined. see e.g. cornelius ryan, 'the last battle'. i wouldn't be surprised if anthony beevor mentions a similar thing in his book 'berlin', which i haven't read.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Plus a minimum of 300,000 female suicides in '45-46 attributable to rape by Soviet troops.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Who would?
I am sure some people would much rather talk about a celeb than more serious women's issues but some are very much the opposite.
I thought you were referring to modern feminists?
yeah i was, sorry guardian/new stateman/tumblr types etc.
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Starry Wisdom
all guardian and new statesman types are sorry specimens.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Of course.
Unfortunately, it's much easier to write (and get published) a whine about manspreading and other poor male social habits, than it is to write something constructive around the position of many women as "2nd class citizens".
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yeah , it's really frustrating because we seem to be going backwards on women's rights at a very alarming rate and yet all these self-described feminists can talk about a lot of the time (and not just on platforms such as the guardian) is blokes on the tube stretching their legs out or the fact that an actress wore the wrong thing.
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Starry Wisdom
tbh it's not just women's rights which are being eroded, it's all sorts of rights from organising at work through to being able to have a private life. things we all took for granted just a few years ago are disappearing at a frightening rate.
bimble
floofy
What elephant? I don't see any elephants in here, not until every last culprit involved in the NYE attacks has been arrested and the details of their family history published in full, and not unless every one of them is proven to be a recent arrival in Germany from a war-zone.
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Starry Wisdom
should have gone to specsaversWhat elephant? I don't see any elephants in here, not until every last culprit involved in the NYE attacks has been arrested and the details of their family history published in full, and not unless every one of them is proven to be a recent arrival in Germany from a war-zone.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I agree with you on this, but at the same time it seems that women have been the last to get basic rights, and are the first to get them taken away.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Dear God. I was vaguely aware of this, and it wasn't just Soviet soldiers, either. Don't know about the suicides (do you have a source?) but wiki is horrific. Rape during the occupation of Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They have been let off, for lack of evidence, so having a transalation of " I will kill you" isn't seen as evidence of anything.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Link please?
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Starry Wisdom
tbh i think it's a bit more complicated than that, given that a) there are rights which gay people don't enjoy which straight men and women do; b) that there are rights which are more greatly denied on the basis of 'race' which affect some groups more than others like black people in the us - e.g. the use of laws to remove the vote from felons - so i wouldn't entirely agree with you.
I think you are describing Momentum as well.
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Starry Wisdom
yeh but it's useful if someone wants to kill you they can point to the german of what they mean and you'll understand the arabick.
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Starry Wisdom
no, i think i was just describing one manifestation of feminism. you're obsessed, you really are.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
How am I equivocating? I'm just asking a question. I don't know what the presence of stolen mobile phones is supposed to prove.you are eqivocating about this, how did they get there then, in a matter of days?
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