How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?

[Wilf]

Allegations that david steele's office tried (and failed) to buy off witnesses to Cyril smith's noncery:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-cyril-smith-labour-simon-danczuk-david-steel

Steele's defence on his failure to give a shit (from last year) was distinctly shitty. 'I had no locus in the matter'. What a vile cunt. From 7-35 here:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-cyril-smith-labour-simon-danczuk-david-steel

 

[brogdale]

Allegations that witnesses to Cyril smiths noncery were bought off by david steele's office:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-cyril-smith-labour-simon-danczuk-david-steel

To be fair to the couple who witnessed the monstrous peado, there was an attempt to buy them off.

 

[Wilf]

To be fair to the couple who witnessed the monstrous peado, there was an attempt to buy them off.

sorry, yes, I'll edit - exactly that (I had read the story, but somehow still managed to summarise it incorrectly )

 

[teqniq]

Kincora historic VIP paedophile ring - shock revelations

A Kincora abuse victim from Northern Ireland has told Channel 4 News how he was also abused at London's Elm Guest House and Dolphin Square at the hands of "very powerful people"....

 

[Wilf]

Windsor details to be wiped from Virginia Roberts court case
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/07/prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein-florida

 

[teqniq]

“These unnecessary details shall be stricken.”

Unnecessary to whom one wonders.

 

[elbows]

Kincora historic VIP paedophile ring - shock revelations

Here is more detail on earlier parts of his story, before the VIP stuff but including the move to England:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...ms-former-resident-richard-kerr-30997734.html

 

[butchersapron]

Tom Bateman has 3 tweets tonight:

1
2
3

Essentially:
Cabinet Office file on honours inquiry into Cyril Smith . Official was told boys "were not of perfect character"
Cabinet Office file on Cyril Smith. Official was told lack of "corroboration" and "boys put their heads together"

+links the docs.

 

[laptop]

Unnecessary to whom one wonders.

Allegations that Roberts was also made to have sex with Alan Dershowitz, a Harvard law professor and another friend of Epstein, were also struck from the case by Marra. The judge said a legal attempt by Dershowitz to intervene in the case was now unnecessary.

Judge, translated: "You're trying to bring Dershowitz into my courtroom? Just. Fuck. Off."

Too tired to find the other thread this should be on.

 

[DotCommunist]

Tom Bateman has 3 tweets tonight:

1
2
3

Essentially:
Cabinet Office file on honours inquiry into Cyril Smith . Official was told boys "were not of perfect character"
Cabinet Office file on Cyril Smith. Official was told lack of "corroboration" and "boys put their heads together"

+links the docs.

is there any more clear cut bit of phrasing that means 'working class oikies'? the language these people use....I recall an excerpt from someones diaries quoted on here where it was noted that people knew someone was an 'enthusiastic' peadophile. Just like that, as if it needs an intensifier. And related in the terms of salacious winkiness that one might apply to someones fetish for high heels or something.

 

[treelover]

Kincora historic VIP paedophile ring - shock revelations

That Ch4 package was heart rending and very very revealing, the crimes go deeper, more obscene and more catastrophic with every moment of that film.

Our thanks should go to that man in the film who opened up his memories, toxic as they were.

 

[elbows]

Exaro has sort of jumped the shark for me with this set or articles about Carole Kasir. Quite a lot of tabloid-type writing in these, and dwelling on details that are not really relevant or illuminating.

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5532/carole-kasir-boasted-about-vips-who-visited-elm-guest-house
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5...ractious-family-life-and-failed-relationships
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5534/revealed-carole-kasir-and-her-squalid-life-at-elm-guest-house

Yuck. Her squalid life indeed, squalid bloody journalism!

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Long article about endemic child rape at Gordonstoun

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/12/child-abuse-at-prince-charles-former-school-scotland

 

[Casually Red]

That Ch4 package was heart rending and very very revealing, the crimes go deeper, more obscene and more catastrophic with every moment of that film.

Our thanks should go to that man in the film who opened up his memories, toxic as they were.

Very brave too . The bodies are piled up around that case . Stuff emerging now about the ira killing of the rev Robert Bradford mp right in the middle of when that case was coming out . He was a close associate of McGrath and was supposedly looking into the case when he was assassinated . What was very odd about it was his special branch bodyguards weren't touched...a priority target for the Provos..and even odder they never fired a shot either . Despite a caretaker...witness...being killed at the scene . Local tabloid over here has been fingering stakeknife aka Fred scappittici , top British mole in the Provos as one of the button men .

Can't do links on this iPad thing but if you google Robert Bradford kincora it throws up a lot of interesting stuff . Including about the terry report . Doubt very much they'll ever go near this stuff because the can of worms is simply far too big .

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Apologies for the Express link but they have an 'intelligence source' confirming some of that Kincora story above.

The ex-intelligence officer said MI6 was ordered to watch the Kincora care home in Belfast in the 1970s because one of its housemasters, William McGrath, was the leader of paramilitary group Tara.

Spies witnessed terror-related arms deals but also found evidence of an international paedophile gang trafficking victims to Brighton, London, Amsterdam and Vienna.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/569866/Child-sex-abuse-ring-kept-secret-British-spies-MI6

 

[DaveCinzano]

Apologies for the Express link but they have an 'intelligence source' confirming some of that Kincora story above

Colin Wallace, or a new one?

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Colin Wallace, or a new one?

Good point.

They're not naming the source, but it could be him.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Exaro say that an unreported vote back in Feb took place in which MPs voted down an amendment that'd allow giving CSA evidence without OSA prosecution

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5...-to-lift-official-secrets-act-for-csa-scandal

Here's the MPs who voted to continue to protect child raping toffs using the Official Secrets Act

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5530/how-mps-voted-on-move-to-change-official-secrets-act-over-csa

As you can see, OSA protection for child-raping toffs is a particularly popular policy among the tories but by no means unique to them.

 

[Casually Red]

Good point.

They're not naming the source, but it could be him.

There's a few more prepared to talk now, one went public on the issue last year .

 

[Casually Red]

Apologies for the Express link but they have an 'intelligence source' confirming some of that Kincora story above.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/569866/Child-sex-abuse-ring-kept-secret-British-spies-MI6

What I find odd about that tale is there's no mention at all of McGrath himself being an agent . Its been common knowledge over here for many years that he was . For example even prior to the troubles ,during the 60s he was smuggling bibles , religious stuff and propaganda and the like into eastern Europe . After the trouble broke out he was behind all sorts of disinformation campaigns and manipulating loyalist groupings . He was one of theirs the entire time .

 

[hot air baboon]

Law chief drops child abuse case against peer

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article4412975.ece

Sean O’Neill Crime Editor
Last updated at 12:15AM, April 16 2015

A veteran Labour politician is to escape charges for the second time over alleged child sex crimes in a decision that will prompt anger at prosecutors and claims of an establishment cover-up.
Alison Saunders, the director of public prosecutions, will announce today that it would not be in the public interest to put on trial Lord Janner of Braunstone, QC, the former MP for Leicester West, for historical abuse allegations.


scan of Times artcile on the Icke forum :


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1062462632&postcount=396




Labour's Janner will not be charged over alleged child abuse:
Prosecutors say it is not in public interest to put peer, 86, on trial because of his age and dementia

Lord Janner will not face prosecution despite credible evidence against him of historic child sex offences, prosecutors will announce today.
Alison Saunders, Director of Public Prosecutions, will say it is not in the public interest to put the Labour peer on trial because of his age and advanced dementia.
The 86-year-old former MP for Leicester West faces claims he preyed on young boys at care homes in his constituency in the 1970s.
Detectives have interviewed more than 20 men who claim they were abused, but have been unable to speak to Lord Janner because of his poor health.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ay-not-public-peer-86-trial-age-dementia.html

 

[Chilli.s]

DPP says justice not in the public interest?

Right, thats all cleared up then.

 

[brogdale]

inconveniently alive

 

[teqniq]

Ffs [emoji35]

 

[DotCommunist]

shameless shit

 

[nino_savatte]

It's the Ernest Saunders get-out clause. Cunt.

 

[DotCommunist]

inconveniently alive

at the moment

 

[teqniq]

Doubtless there are one or two people who wish he'd hurry up and croak

 

[butchersapron]

To put some meat on those bones - the CPS have said that on three occcassions (1991, 2002, 2007) the claims against Janner passed their evidential basis test but were not pursued. If they had been - as they should have been - he would have faced 22 charges of indecent assault and buggery against 9 individuals over 20 years. For starters i expect. And the CPS says that the allegations relate to Leicester childrens's homes based grooming and assaults.

 

[Wilf]

That's the Lord Janner who was able to make a speech in the H of L in Feb 2013 and didn't go on leave from the House till Oct 2014.