Hillsborough Independent Panel findings and release of documents.

[Pickman's model]

Dozens of police officers refuse to speak to Hillsborough crime probe

Coppers refuse to cooperate with Operation Resolve as it would be 'too traumatic' - twats

this is surely the great job the retired syp were talking about

 

[ViolentPanda]

"They" only call it class war when we fight back. Bring it!

Been sharpening your entrenching tool, Bish?

 

[DaveCinzano]

What did Norman Bettison and David Crompton talk about?

 

[butchersapron]

What did Norman Bettison and David Crompton talk about?

Amazing that Crompton actually believed that the media who they colluded with and manipulated (and vice versa) in order to smear and lie about the victims was victim-friendly.

From those calls and texts he sounds like a youtube commenter. How did he rise so far and for so long?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Hang on - this is sheff star, i thought it was daily star where Corke works. My fault that.

He's freelance anyway, not a staff reporter

 

[DaveCinzano]

How did he rise so far and for so long?

Youthful good looks and consummate charm

 

[butchersapron]

He's freelance anyway, not a staff reporter

His tax affairs are his own! Anyway, no one else seemed to be prepared to buy his stuff.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Total smackdown of Crompton by Neil Wilby:

David Crompton: The South Yorkshire Police years

 

[where to]

But he didn't suggest that publicly at the time that Blair was blocking an inquiry. Burnham has done well recently, but if he thought that at the time he should have done something about it.

Unless I missed his criticism at the time.

absolutely. i watched the video of him being heckled in April 2009 last night. its actually astonishing hearing his words now, offering mere sympathy rather than action. that takes some brass neck as a Merseysider, in front of 30K of your own. made me wonder whether he actually wanted to trigger something that day. their time in office was likely coming to an end. was their relationship with the police now expendable? compared to the long term harm opening the books would do to the tories.

its also an interesting angle on the Sun's decision - in September 2009 - to switch to backing the Tories. or did they already know this was on the cards?

 

[Bedgewick3]

How does a Liverpudlian spell justice?

R E V E N G E

Pass the sick bag Andy

 

[Athos]

How does a Liverpudlian spell justice?

R E V E N G E

Pass the sick bag Andy

Nice of you to pop back, Leslie, but there's really no need to stay.

 

[butchersapron]

Never ends.

 

[belboid]

Never ends.

SYP are all but dead. There have been moves to merge them with Humberside already, that'll go through within the year now, I reckon.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

From those calls and texts he sounds like a youtube commenter. How did he rise so far and for so long?

Daddy is a Sir who also said the dead deserved to die.

 

[agricola]

Never ends.

That John Buttress thing is in itself a scandal, and again only really covered in any real detail locally and in Private Eye.

 

[DaveCinzano]

That John Buttress thing is in itself a scandal, and again only really covered in any real detail locally and in Private Eye.

He's about on Twitter and amenable to discussion

 

[William of Walworth]

Apologies for posting this late (and if it's been linked to already), but Brian's Reade's post-inquest interview with Margaret Apinall in the Mirror stopped me in my tracks yesterday [i.e. Wednesday] .....

I also thought David Conn's Guardian report on the St Georges Hall rally was pretty damned good ... it went online on Wednesday but I read it in Thursday's paper edition ...

 

[William of Walworth]

I've been known to pick up the Sun on the odd rare occasion ... eg when people leave it in the pub or at work etc. There was a copy lying around in the work canteen today (ie Thursday) but I left it alone.

I'm never going to do pick it up ever again. Wish I'd fucking told myself to 'leave it it's not worth it!' 30-40 years ago ....< at self> (to be clear, I've never bought it).

Hardly news , but today's shitrag had some made-up bollocks about PC gorn mad in a creche as the front page headline.

Almost all other front pages featured Crompton getting kicked out, or other Hillsborough stories.

 

[zippyRN]

How does a Liverpudlian spell justice?

R E V E N G E

Pass the sick bag Andy

In some cases it appears so - such as those calling for the scalp of Yorkshire Ambulance's CE who has only been in post less than a year so can't even be held to account over the briefing of the YAS official line in the inquests... the medical cover for events stuff was changed drastically in the light of Taylor;s original report in the early 90s

However i do get the feeling heads will roll for the police actions AFTER the day ... and some of the stuff that WMP were part of in that period.

 

[Favelado]

Anyone seen the MOTD footage with Des Lynam commentating on the unfolding events of that day? The BBC bias went out the window, he reported exactly how it was. Jimmy Hill was in the box too, but was silent with shock

I'm watching this now and hadn't seen it before. Extraordinary footage. Lynam gives a perfect account there and then. The truth was always there if people could get over their prejudice.

 

[Favelado]

In some cases it appears so - such as those calling for the scalp of Yorkshire Ambulance's CE who has only been in post less than a year so can't even be held to account over the briefing of the YAS official line in the inquests... the medical cover for events stuff was changed drastically in the light of Taylor;s original report in the early 90s

However i do get the feeling heads will roll for the police actions AFTER the day ... and some of the stuff that WMP were part of in that period.

Oh fuck off.

 

[Miss-Shelf]

I'm watching this now and hadn't seen it before. Extraordinary footage. Lynam gives a perfect account there and then. The truth was always there if people could get over their prejudice.

Can you post a link please

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Probably this ... ?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Or this MOTD, with Lynam talking to Hill?

 

[Miss-Shelf]

I still am astounded at the verdict. I never thought it would come.

I remember well that day and subsequent days in Liverpool. Everyone knew people at the match and the shock and grief rippled out to the whole of Merseyside

Even though I knew the truth immediately from a friend at the match the scale of the cover up is breathtaking still. There are still thoughts and feelings that can only happen after a vindication.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

dp

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Or this MOTD, with Lynam talking to Hill?

Yeah that's the one.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Straight away they've got a handle on it - no crowd trouble, police opened the gate, police didn't properly direct the crowd, and very quickly it all spiraled out of control with dire consequences

 

[Favelado]

*d p

 

[Athos]

Given that the truth was quite obvious (to anyone interested in the truth) from a very early stage, it makes you realise the chutzpah of the establishment; that can only be a product of having got away with it at Orgreave.