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Hillsborough Independent Panel findings and release of documents.

butchersapron said:
This is from Madrid's recently named Margaret Thatcher Plaza:

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Those stickers are variants of this:

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It wasn't me. Yet.
 
It's a fucking insult that Aguirre/Botella have wangled it so that they get a square named after their hero. "I think the first three Star Wars films are pretty cool, so if I'm mayor I'm going to make sure there's a Plaza de Chewbacca", was my favourite comment on it.

Maybe RAWK will think about doing something by way of a protest for the Madrid game. Not out of the question.
 
Someone'll be weighing that sign in for scrap on the Wirral next week, once it's no longer useful as a urinal.
 
DaveCinzano said:


PS Is it worth having a separate inquest thread?
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Might be - long long way to go yet. I was thinking after yesterdays stuff to try and do a round-up each week on sundays. An ongoing thing might be better - just don''t know given the nature of the last few months stuff though i.e fairly mundane but with killer stuff buried in the mundanity - duckenfield telling coppers not to use their own notebooks but blank pads he will provide for example. Give it a shot i say.
 
Mr George: You were at the time prepared to spread idle gossip denigrating the Liverpool fans?

Mr Sykes: "I was stating what I knew myself and what other police officers had told me." (referring to the pickpockets suggestions)

Mr George: One of the things that got into the S*n was that the Liverpool fans were pilfering from each other

Mr Sykes: "I didn't say that, no"

Mr George: No.. because you could not know, but you were talking about it at the Police Federation meeting (the next day)
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That second line is skyes saying that he knew liverpool fans had pickpocketed the dead and he was only saying what he knew to be true- i,e he had witnessed it. He then goes on to say he said no such thing. He's lying right there in the inquiry.
 
Cops' written accounts were processed through unit at South Yorkshire Police headquarters dubbed ‘the War Room’:

[Lawyer for 22 families] Mr George said: "Does this reflect the mindset of officers in the South Yorkshire Police, 11 days after the disaster, that they are formulating a War Office?


"Didn't Winston Churchill have one of those when we were fighting the Nazis?"


[Former police Inspector] Mr Woodward said he doesn't know why it was called that.​

Woodward also denied that despite his final submission including claims - about fans shouting abuse at him and smelling of drink - which had not featured anywhere in his original statement, no one asked him to lie:

“I do not recall anybody speaking to me and asking me, telling me, what to put in my recollections.”​

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...inspector-added-comments-hillsborough-7973430

When pushed by George, Woodward admitted that ‘someone must have asked him to clarify it’.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...quests---tuesday-7968531#.VEZQFKh1_lY.twitter (see 12:26)
 
More stuff today about the language used by specific police when filing their initial reports. But what I'd like to draw attention to is the same thing as last time I posted on this subject, the deliberate removal of anything that indicated police incompetence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-29897240

Elsewhere in his initial statement, Mr Purdy wrote he had "shouted at officers on the pitch, they seemed to be stood there mesmerised, they did not seem to comprehend the enormity of the situation".

That sentence was also removed from the later version of his statement, as was a reference to Supt Roger Marshall - the officer in charge of fans outside the stadium - being "perplexed".

Mr Purdy said he was "told by officers who brought it down to be signed that it had been amended" and that "the material that was opinion [and] speculation had been taken out to make it a factual statement".
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He accepted some of what had been removed was fact rather than opinion.

He was also asked about why many officers' first recollections, including his own, were made on plain paper and neither signed nor dated.

Receiving reports in such a condition, he said, "certainly wouldn't be a way that you would normally request documents to be submitted".

Mr Purdy accepted being asked for statements in that condition involved "wholly improper instructions", but he could not recall who had made that order.
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The jury was also shown a letter, dated 5 May 1989, from South Yorkshire Police's solicitors Hammond Suddards. It referred to Mr Purdy's initial statement.

It read that the firm saw his testimony as "a most helpful statement" but wanted him to review it "to reduce the graphic content and render it rather more prosaic and factual".
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Interesting evidence today from the Sheffield Wednesday CCTV technician Roger Houldsworth, notably about how that evening he had left VHS tapes from 16 recorders in a locked, alarmed cupboard in a locked, guarded CCTV control room - only to return the next morning and discover two of the tapes (both of which from cameras which covered the Leppings Lane area) missing and the cupboard door open.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...echnician-tells-hillsborough-inquests-8064902
 
Hillsborough match commander David Duckenfield told officers that the kick off should not be delayed under any circumstances during a briefing before the match, the inquests heard.

A former officer [Maxwell Groome] on duty that day said Chief Supt. Duckenfield and Supt. Bernard Murray were then “conspicuous by their absence” as the disaster unfolded.
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...rough-inquests-david-duckenfield-told-8303549

See also liveblog for 2:31pm:

Mr Mansfield asks if it came to his notice at some point that there was a meeting going on between senior officers.

He says: "Yes, in the portacabins at the car park."

He says that was in the car park of Hammerton Road police station.

He says those portacabins were next to the area office.

He says he believed there were lots of people there but not Roger Marshall.

He says he understood that Mr Duckenfield was there and he was told there was a "substantial meeting".

He says: "The word was, if I can put it that way, that they were trying initially to blame Mr Marshall for asking for the gate to be opened."

He says he would have heard that in the days after the disaster and it would have come from someone in the area office, next door.

Mr Groome is asked if the officers had anything in common.

Mr Groome says: "Being unable to prove it I believe that most of them were masons."

He says his belief was that Mr Duckenfield was a grand master of an influential lodge of the Freemasons.​
 
What we've known but now on record and with names:

Hillsborough officer bullied into signing doctored statement, inquest hears

A senior South Yorkshire police officer bullied a constable to sign a doctored statement about the Hillsborough disaster, the new inquest into the deaths of 96 people at the football ground has heard.

PC Michael Walpole told the inquest that he feared his job would be made “a misery” if he did not sign the amended statement, in which several of his original comments had been deleted, because he had seen other officers hounded out of the police in similar circumstances.

Walpole said that at the time he believed it was “out of order” for his statement to have been doctored, and he initially refused to sign it. He was then required to go to South Yorkshire police headquarters at Snig Hill in Sheffield to meet a chief inspector, Alan Foster, with two other constables, Peter Smith and Maxwell Groome, who were also refusing to sign their changed statements.
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