Hillsborough Independent Panel findings and release of documents.

[DaveCinzano]

Updates from today's Hillsborough pre-inquest hearing in London

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...dates-todays-hillsborough-pre-inquest-6672744

I wonder what Duckenfields neighbours around Ferndown think about all this.

 

[DaveCinzano]

From http://hillsboroughinquests.independent.gov.uk/documents-and-rulings/

Documents and rulings
Media coverage of the Inquests (11 February 2014)
Having considered what has been published following the hearing on 5 February 2014, the Coroner wants to make the following quite clear:

The Inquests are shortly to begin. The case will be heard by a jury. They must decide it solely on the evidence they hear in court. It is of fundamental importance that the proceedings are reported accurately and in a balanced way. Nothing (whether by way of comment or otherwise) should be published (including by way of online commentary or social networking sites) which could run the risk of prejudicing the outcome of the proceedings.

The Coroner has the power to refer anything published to the Attorney General if, in his view, it may amount to a contempt of court.


Ruling given on 07 October 2013

• Directions from the Preliminary Hearing of 7 October 2013 (PDF, 76KB)

Ruling given on 10 June 2013

• Ruling on the assistance with coronial investigation given by the Lord Justice Goldring (PDF, 220KB)

Rulings given on 02 May 2013

• Directions given by the Lord Justice Goldring following the preliminary hearing on 25 April 2013 (PDF, 22KB)
• Ruling as to the location of the inquests given by the Lord Justice Goldring (PDF, 192KB)
• Ruling as to the timing of the inquests given by the Lord Justice Goldring (PDF, 154KB)

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

This thread is the most depressing thing on urban by miles.

How many more revelations can there be that the state not only caused and covered up this tragedy, not only smeared, but did the actions they smeared others with; lied all the way from copper on the street to the prime minister?

Thanks for all the updates.

As Mark Thomas says: If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention.

If this doesn't make everyone sit up and see the shit they shovel nothing will

 

[Nice one]

banner at the liverpool-arsenal game on saturday

 

[likesfish]

None of the ministers were anywhere near hillsborough they just let their prejudice against of football fans remember heysel?
And trust in the police this is all on yorkshire police they fucked up its what people do
The liesthough thats all on them and no excuse for that should leadto jail time ascoppers are meant to

 

[butchersapron]

This thread is the most depressing thing on urban by miles.

How many more revelations can there be that the state not only caused and covered up this tragedy, not only smeared, but did the actions they smeared others with; lied all the way from copper on the street to the prime minister?

Thanks for all the updates.

As Mark Thomas says: If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention.

If this doesn't make everyone sit up and see the shit they shovel nothing will

I think that there's a distancing thing with Hillsborough - with footbalh generally. Or at least stuff from that period. They've all made good use of it.

 

[butchersapron]

Despite everything that';s now been made public some people still don't get it. This is from the front page of yesterdays Reading Chronicle - if you zoom in on the first para it reads: Football hooliganism may be thought of as a relic from a previous age when gangs of denim-clad skinheads held the game to ransom and names like Hillsborough and Heysel were symbols of its ills.

 

[Teaboy]

^^^^ That's shocking all round really. First the Hillsborough slur, then the implication that Reading has potential crowd trouble (I doubt there is a more placid crowd in the Championship) and thirdly the crap, staged photo. Quality local journalism all round.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Jesus wept.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/campaigners-react-angrily-after-reading-6857241

A newspaper in Reading has come under fire for a front page story appearing to link the Hillsborough disaster with hooliganism...

 

[ddraig]

2 posts up bruv

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

2 posts up bruv

Yes, I know!

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/n.../03/21/98736-berkshire-media-group-statement/

Berkshire Media Group Statement

Published: 21 Mar 2014 11:30
A statement from the Managing Director of Berkshire Media Group.
Berkshire Media Group, publishers of the Reading Chronicle wish to apologise unreservedly for appearing to link football hooliganism with the Hillsborough tragedy on our front page of this week’s issue. It was never our intention to do so and we fully accept that hooliganism played no part in the tragic events of 15th April 1989.
Keith McIntyre
Managing Director
Berkshire Media Group

Arseholes.

 

[butchersapron]

The denim clad bit is well weird. And the skinheads bit is inaccurate.

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, I know!

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/n.../03/21/98736-berkshire-media-group-statement/



Arseholes.

Not for linking FH with hillsborough but for appearing to. Add it to the pile of apologetic sounding non-apolgies Santino. I think that was a gen apol but such has the dominance of the apologetic sounding non-apolgies become in any group larger than 20 people that this is now what they think is a real apology.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You'd have thought that with the Hillsborough lies being wholly exposed a newspaper would know better, especially after Kelvin McKenzie*
Who incidentally is standing as a councillor in my borough, we're moving out of the area!

 

[butchersapron]

You'd have thought that with the Hillsborough lies being wholly exposed a newspaper would know better, especially after Kelvin McKenzie*
Who incidentally is standing as a councillor in my borough, we're moving out of the area!

Is he really? info please!!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Is he really? info please!!

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/mar/20/kelvin-mackenzie-sun

The former Sun editor, Kelvin MacKenzie, has kept a low profile for the last year or so since losing his Daily Mail column and being dropped after writing just one column for the Daily Telegraph.
But he has put his head above the parapet once more by standing as an independent candidate for Elmbridge borough council in Weybridge, Surrey.

Just sold our house in Elmbridge and we're heading for the hills, literally!

 

[butchersapron]

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/mar/20/kelvin-mackenzie-sun


Just sold our house in Elmbridge and we're heading for the hills, literally!

Cheers. Let's see what we can do with this.

 

[LiamO]

Think the Inquest starts in earnest next week. I would imagine the Plod - and indeed the government - are dreading it.

 

[barney_pig]

John madjeski turns up the pressure on the chronic
"Both the Club and I have received a number of complaints today regarding an article in the Reading Chronicle, and I personally share our supporters’ dismay.

In my opinion the nature of the article, and in particular the image manufactured for the front page, completely misrepresents the vast majority of our fans, and their experiences supporting the team both at Madejski Stadium and on the road.

The article itself is an unwarranted and sensationalised attack which undermines everything our club tries to represent. To paint a full picture, last season there was only one Reading fan arrested at Madejski Stadium, and only ten arrests out of nearly half a million home and away fans through the turnstiles, all for minor offences. Those Home Office figures speak for themselves.

I have spent more than a quarter of my life building up this football club on and off the pitch, so I personally take a series of gross misrepresentations in this edition as insults to our club’s good name. No club is perfect, but I and every member of staff work tirelessly to make Madejski Stadium a great place to bring your family and friends and I know Thames Valley Police also take great pride in our exemplary record.

When the Club was named Family Club of the Year by the Football League, it was one of the finest moments of my time here, and remains just as important to me as everything we have achieved on the pitch.

The newspaper also contains a comment relating to the Hillsborough tragedy that has deeply offended many of us in the football family.

With all that in mind, we have decided to suspend our relationship with this particular publication. We have a duty to protect the club’s reputation, and particularly to protect our supporters’ reputation. This is not a decision we take lightly because we value the freedom of the press and have enjoyed excellent relationships with our local media in the past, but we are sure our supporters will agree that we cannot allow the fans’ good name to be besmirched in this way.

So many people have spoken to me today about this article – both supporters and my colleagues here at the club – hurt and disappointed by what they had read. As custodians for Reading Football Club, the right course of action was clear to us all.

Sir John Madejski OBE, DL

Chairman"

 

[William of Walworth]

Good on him. I've never liked Reading (being Oxford! ) but he's always seemed like one of the less-bad club bosses.

If he'd specifically mentioned the paper's lies about Hillsborough as well, it would have been an even better statement, but I suppose that's hoping for too much -- and he was focussing on the Reading fan aspect tbf.

 

[newbie]

You'd have thought that with the Hillsborough lies being wholly exposed a newspaper would know better, especially after Kelvin McKenzie*
Who incidentally is standing as a councillor in my borough, we're moving out of the area!

You'd have thought that with the Coroner's warning a newspaper would know better

 

[killer b]

The denim clad bit is well weird. And the skinheads bit is inaccurate.

it's a thoughtless junior hack with no actual knowledge of hillsborough, football hooliganism or fuck all else trying to craft an exciting sentence is all. Blame lies more on the newspaper editor for letting it through IMO.

 

[butchersapron]

Hillsborough: IPCC identifies 13 suspects in the investigation into the disaster

Police watchdog the IPCC has identified 13 suspects in the investigation into theHillsborough disaster.

Following today's pre-inquest hearing the commission revealed it was in the process of interviewing the retired and serving officers under criminal caution for a range of offences including misconduct in public office, perverting the course of justice and manslaughter.

Four of the suspects are also being investigated by Operation Resolve.

The inquest hearing in Warrington today heard that the BBC had provided the inquests with an hour of previously unseen footage from within the stadium at the time of the 1989 disaster.

Starts proper this monday.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

this is all that's carried on the front page of this week's reading chronic(le)

LAST week’s issue of the Reading Chronicle carried a special investigative piece entitled "The Other Face of Football”.

This article caused great offence to Reading Football Club, Reading fans and those affected by the dreadful events of Hillsborough in 1989.

The Chronicle wishes to apologise for any offence caused by the article and assure you that a full investigation into last week’s events is being undertaken.

We fully accept that Reading Football Club has an exemplary record of policing their ground and Royals fans have a well-deserved reputation for excellent behaviour.

Unfortunately our article and the front page in particular did not make this clear.

The Reading Chronicle has a long and proud tradition of serving our readers and advertisers across Reading and West Berkshire.

This article fell short of the diligent, responsible reporting that has been our trademark down the years.

The editor (of that rag, that is) currently suspended from duty. Story here.

 

[cesare]

this is all that's carried on the front page of this week's reading chronic(le)



The editor (of that rag, that is) currently suspended from duty. Story here.

Still no acknowledgement of the Hillsborough aspect.

 

[butchersapron]

Couple of things:

Hillsborough campaigners row as 'missing' police files emerge

We found that scores of police documents relating to the 1989 disaster have been found since an independent panel’s report in September 2012.

The files are from West Midlands Police, who investigated the tragedy in Sheffield, which claimed 96 lives.

The force had previously said it passed all papers to South Yorkshire Police in 2009, ahead of the panel’s report.

The FOI response lists scores of documents found recently, although we are not revealing the details for legal reasons.

(Not the best ever pic of Sheila either)

and this (note - link to a doc) coroners order that seems to severely restrict reporting of last weeks pre-inquest.

 

[ddraig]

Bbc article with pics and details of each one of the 96
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26765007

 

[butchersapron]

Going to be a year of this:

Duckenfield said shortly afterwards that Gate C had been forced, but it was him who ordered it to be opened, coroner says.

This is the talk about what will be covered.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm still fair staggered by the attempts to access the victims funds and the robbing off dead peoples pockets, blamed on the supporters. And the blood alcohol tests. Whats the chances of those heinous shit things seeing an airing in this inquest?

 

[butchersapron]

I'm still fair staggered by the attempts to access the victims funds and the robbing off dead peoples pockets, blamed on the supporters. And the blood alcohol tests. Whats the chances of those heinous shit things seeing an airing in this inquest?

Not massively confident - there is large input from this side this time (or it's set out to have it anyway).