It's funny, but Nl apparatchiks, who have spent years attacking the poor, , launching and supporting illegal wars, privatising, attacking asylum seekers and migrants who for many years they encouraged, etc are clinging onto the only bit of radicalism they have left: their 'anti-fascism'/anti-racism: I remember going in MP Richard Caborn's Office, there were no pictures of his Communist father, none of his days working in the Steel Industry, the Miners Strike, etc, but a massive one of him meeting Nelson Mandela.
Griffin and BNP strategy
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TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
Upset, because somebody is stealing your modus operandi?
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Perhaps the recession is bringing this out more in people, the seeds have been sowed by the establishment for years.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Gardening analogy doesn't work - they were flowering years before 'the crisis'.
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
love detective
there's no love too small
those accounts aren't the accounts for the BNP as a whole, their just some regional units/branches or something like that, the actual proper overall organisation accounts for 2008 are still overdue - if you look at 2007 accounts their overall income is about 750k, whereas in those 2008 accounts where it shows the prior year for comparison the overall income there for 2007 is about 250k,which i presume means 500k is generated from (or at least booked to) the central/head office BNP unit
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i can't believe that the ticket sales for the 2008 red white and blue festival were only £96. shome mishtake shurely?
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That's a laugh alright. Anybody done more research on how they can get away with lying in accounts?
butchersapron
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No, they are, they go through the regional accounting unit, which is itself a dodge.
love detective
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nah i'm not sure that's the case
if you look at the accounts lodged with the EC for 2007 there are two sets, one being the regional accounting unit one (which is the equivalent of these 2008 ones) - and then one set for the party overall as a whole - for 2007 they had total income of about £600k (I said 750k above in error as was quoting from memory) and back in april this year griffin said
http://bn*p.org.uk/2009/04/bnp-expansion-programme-—-now-it’s-the-turn-of-treasury/
so all that doesn't stack up against a total income shown in these accounts of only £211k
also in those accounts membership subs for the whole year are stated as just under two thousand pounds! there's no way that represents the whole organisation - I presume all subs are paid to, and booked in, the central unit - this would also explain the very small amounts showing for the RWB stuff as well
if you look at the accounts lodged with the EC for 2007 there are two sets, one being the regional accounting unit one (which is the equivalent of these 2008 ones) - and then one set for the party overall as a whole - for 2007 they had total income of about £600k (I said 750k above in error as was quoting from memory) and back in april this year griffin said
http://bn*p.org.uk/2009/04/bnp-expansion-programme-—-now-it’s-the-turn-of-treasury/
so all that doesn't stack up against a total income shown in these accounts of only £211k
also in those accounts membership subs for the whole year are stated as just under two thousand pounds! there's no way that represents the whole organisation - I presume all subs are paid to, and booked in, the central unit - this would also explain the very small amounts showing for the RWB stuff as well
butchersapron
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Yes, my mistake, you're right - which would explain a lot of the (apparent and baffling) changes i noted in my post, as well as the reorganisation of their finance team into a 'treasury' dept earlier this year amidst claims they'd reached operational income of over a million quid by Griffin at the time.
On matters BNP- watch out for their rersult in Glasgow NE this thursday.
A few papers are talking up their chanches of coming third- which they wont-but I would have money on them beating either Toriies or Liberals here- and possibly saving their deposit
Griffin in news again today for visiting Wooton Bassett to see the servicemens coffins come home
A few papers are talking up their chanches of coming third- which they wont-but I would have money on them beating either Toriies or Liberals here- and possibly saving their deposit
Griffin in news again today for visiting Wooton Bassett to see the servicemens coffins come home
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Yes, papers talking this up again. The Indie on Sunday should know better. They ran an item on the bye-election focussing almost exclusively on the fact that one small-ish party might break 5%. WTF is that about?
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LOOK at this, BNP total failure here
Birmingham City MBC, Sutton New Hall
Thursday 22 October 2009 12:00
Con 1633 (58.3; -8.8)
Lab 505 (18.0; +5.6)
UKIP 344 (12.3; +12.3)
LD Robert Hardware 319 (11.4; +2.7)
[Green (0.0; -3.5)]
[BNP (0.0; -8.3)]
Majority 1128
Turnout 15.93%
Con hold
Percentage change is since May 2008.
Birmingham City MBC, Sutton New Hall
Thursday 22 October 2009 12:00
Con 1633 (58.3; -8.8)
Lab 505 (18.0; +5.6)
UKIP 344 (12.3; +12.3)
LD Robert Hardware 319 (11.4; +2.7)
[Green (0.0; -3.5)]
[BNP (0.0; -8.3)]
Majority 1128
Turnout 15.93%
Con hold
Percentage change is since May 2008.
The Black Hand
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News gets better, another BNP total failure
Hertfordshire CC, Borehamwood North
Thursday 22 October 2009 12:00
Con 982 (44.5; +5.5)
Lab 928 (42.1; +13.2)
LD Robert Gamble 170 (7.7; -4.6)
Ind 125 (5.7; -0.1)
[BNP (0.0; -14.1)]
Majority 54
Turnout 18.5%
Con hold
Percentage change is since June 2009.
Hertfordshire CC, Borehamwood North
Thursday 22 October 2009 12:00
Con 982 (44.5; +5.5)
Lab 928 (42.1; +13.2)
LD Robert Gamble 170 (7.7; -4.6)
Ind 125 (5.7; -0.1)
[BNP (0.0; -14.1)]
Majority 54
Turnout 18.5%
Con hold
Percentage change is since June 2009.
The Black Hand
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These do not effect the localised BNP total failures I indicated.
i know, question is why were they failures despite their european election success and question time raising their profile?
Maybe they didn't field candidates on this particular occasion?
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The Black Hand
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Who did?
The surprise there is that anyone voted Labour. It's a very affluent area and has been Tory since the dawn of time. It's in Norman Fowlers old constituency. I suspect the only reason the BNP stood there is that for a few years now they've made a big thing of contesting all 40 Birmingham wards.LOOK at this, BNP total failure here
Birmingham City MBC, Sutton New Hall
Thursday 22 October 2009 12:00
Con 1633 (58.3; -8.8)
Lab 505 (18.0; +5.6)
UKIP 344 (12.3; +12.3)
LD Robert Hardware 319 (11.4; +2.7)
[Green (0.0; -3.5)]
[BNP (0.0; -8.3)]
Majority 1128
Turnout 15.93%
Con hold
Percentage change is since May 2008.
they didn't stand
The Black Hand
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They did the time b4 and that is what he meant.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
As expected with membership, with the FPOfrom Austria to be joining soon adding to the number of MEP`s- and an unspecified Ukranian Nationalist group joining as well.
News gets better, another BNP total failure
Hertfordshire CC, Borehamwood North
Thursday 22 October 2009 12:00
Con 982 (44.5; +5.5)
Lab 928 (42.1; +13.2)
LD Robert Gamble 170 (7.7; -4.6)
Ind 125 (5.7; -0.1)
[BNP (0.0; -14.1)]
Majority 54
Turnout 18.5%
Con hold
Percentage change is since June 2009.
they didn't stand .. it does not mean their support has gone. good news they couldn't get a candidate together though
http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/567379.bnp_target_borehamwood/
butchersapron
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Don't bother with that month old nonsense. I posted the relavent stats of returns since june either on this thread or elsewhere. I'll find and repost.
The Black Hand
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Bizarre. It is not intellectual to ignore evidence.
The Black Hand
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I agree, there will be people who vote BNP as I have long said - the 'enlarged right wing pool thesis'. I have also said that the linear narrative model of 'how good the BNP are progressing' doesn't fit reality, and this is evidence of that.
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