Griffin and BNP strategy

[audiotech]

Would the Left List be happy with those results?

This threads about the BNP.

 

[LLETSA]

This threads about the BNP.

You don't say. So would the far-left be happy with the same level of support that the BNP's average share of the vote indicates they have at present or not?

 

[audiotech]

You don't say. So would the far-left be happy with the same level of support that the BNP's average share of the vote indicates they have at present or not?

You might want to start a new dumb question thread elsewhere, because I can't be arsed with your petty games.

 

[LLETSA]

You might want to start a new dumb question thread elsewhere, because I can't be arsed with your petty games.

The Biggest Waste of Time-Attica (aka Mr Deluded) or the King of Platitude himself, Mr MC5?

You decide.

 

[audiotech]

The Biggest Waste of Time-Attica (aka Mr Deluded) or the King of Platitude himself, Mr MC5?

You decide.

 

[The Black Hand]

If only this could be said of what remains of the radical left.

What is left of the radical left IS the minority - over 90% of lefties are nowhere near the 'organised' groups.

 

[The Black Hand]

You don't say. So would the far-left be happy with the same level of support that the BNP's average share of the vote indicates they have at present or not?

This is what I think of that statement - it was crap in the first place and it is still crap;


"FFS how many times have i heard that shite before - ahistorical apolitical atheoretical and apractical crap"...

 

[The Black Hand]

The Biggest Waste of Time-Attica (aka Mr Deluded) or the King of Platitude himself, Mr MC5?

You decide.

The biggest tosser on the board is Letsa. You decide.

 

[LLETSA]

What is left of the radical left IS the minority - over 90% of lefties are nowhere near the 'organised' groups.

Attica is the only person in the world able to confirm this fact.

It's amazing what powers a mastery of praxis can bestow.

 

[The Black Hand]

Attica (aka Mr Deluded)

Seriously SHit head.

What are my delusions????

I would dearly like to know - i think you're full of crap and you will be until you display what my so-called 'delusions' are pls.

I suggest it is lazy sloppy reactionary thinking by you...

 

[The Black Hand]

Attica is the only person in the world able to confirm this fact.

It's amazing what powers a mastery of praxis can bestow.

You don't get around much Letty - you need to get out of your parochial old leftism/area. I've met many many people who are left and not in the organised left. I do not think my experience is unique. THe strength of the left in this country shouldn't be under estimated - remember the million on the march in 2003. No - i don't think you do remember. You do not want to remember.

 

[LLETSA]

You don't get around much Letty - you need to get out of your parochial old leftism/area. I've met many many people who are left and not in the organised left. I do not think my experience is unique. THe strength of the left in this country shouldn't be under estimated - remember the million on the march in 2003. No - i don't think you do remember. You do not want to remember.

Most of that million were not left wing in any meaningful sense, or even at all.



Note for the uninitiated: those whom Attica says he has met are to be regarded as representative of what is going in throughout the UK. If not the world.

 

[The Black Hand]

Most of that million were not left wing in any meaningful sense, or even at all.



Note for the uninitiated: those whom Attica says he has met are to be regarded as representative of what is going in throughout the UK. If not the world.

Note for the uninitiated. Letsa the sad old lefty is a small minded dork who knows nothing of class struggle, labour movement history - or politics for that matter.

 

[The Black Hand]

Most of that million were not left wing in any meaningful sense, or even at all.

Wrong! Go to the bottom of the pile.

You mean not in the meaning you would like.

 

[LLETSA]

Note for the uninitiated. Letsa the sad old lefty is a small minded dork who knows nothing of class struggle, labour movement history - or politics for that matter.

And what's more-he hasn't got a fucking clue what praxis is supposed to mean and doesn't even care.

 

[LLETSA]

Wrong! Go to the bottom of the pile.

You mean not in the meaning you would like.

No-I mean not left wing at all. If they were, many of that million would be in evidence in wider left politics (and I don't necessarily mean the organised left.) They are not.

 

[The Black Hand]

And what's more-he hasn't got a fucking clue what praxis is supposed to mean and doesn't even care.

No, he does know but he pretends not too. Same old dishonest leftism.... Do not trust

 

[The Black Hand]

No-I mean not left wing at all. If they were, many of that million would be in evidence in wider left politics (and I don't necessarily mean the organised left.) They are not.

I think you'll find that a lot already are as you say - you just don't have a purchase on the zeitgeist of the times...

 

[LLETSA]

I think you'll find that a lot already are as you say - you just don't have a purchase on the zeitgeist of the times...

Sorry-I was forgetting about the parallel universe.

 

[The Black Hand]

Sorry-I was forgetting about the parallel universe.

In denial again!! How do you do this lying prolier than thou crap you old lefty?

 

[JimPage]

As to the rersults yesterday
Bexley Result- up from 11.1% to 17% in the ward since May 2008
Barking Result- up from 18.7 % to 25.1% in the ward since May 2008

but
Havering result down from 24.2 to 21.1 % since May 2008. However winning candidate in this ward supported by Third Way/ National Liberals and some rightwing independants. And the new councillor is Black- making him the first, to my reckoning, black and fascist-freindly councillor in Britain (if you ignore Phil Andrews mob in Hounslow that is)

The havering ward is in Cruddas`s new Dagenham and Rainham seat- and labour came fourth in this ward.........
Botht e

 

[treelover]

However winning candidate in this ward supported by Third Way/ National Liberals and some rightwing independants. And the new councillor is Black- making him the first, to my reckoning, black and fascist-freindly councillor in Britain (if you ignore Phil Andrews mob in Hounslow that is)

Eh, he sounds like he has changed,

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8. As Executive Lead Member for Community Safety Councillor Phil Andrews chairs the campaigning and co-ordinating group Hounslow Against Racial Harassment, and has taken the lead in initiatives against racism, homophobia and hate crime around the borough. He recently presented the Cantle Report on Community Cohesion to to the Council Executive and has spoken on the threat of racism and his experiences as a former far-right activist at national venues alongside senior political figures from all of the major parties.

 

[treelover]

Tess Culnane is also standing for the NF in the Haltemprice and Howden by-election, 2008 to be held on 10 July.

btw, not a slur, but i wonder how many of the far right are of Irish descent, I seem to recall it has been discussed on here and MATB, this candidate name sounds Irish

 

[mk12]

Would the Left List be happy with those results?

 

[JHE]

Would the Left List be happy with those results?

The Social Workers would be wetting themselves with delight and gibbering even more of their usual twaddle.

We all know that. That includes one or two people who might prefer not give a straight answer to your question. They know it too.

 

[audiotech]

The Social Workers would be wetting themselves with delight and gibbering even more of their usual twaddle.

We all know that. That includes one or two people who might prefer not give a straight answer to your question. They know it too.

If all know the answer what's the point of the daft question then?

 

[butchersapron]

To make a comparison, one that might lead to some critical self-reflexion on the part of the BNP is dead/dying crowd. But no, blunder onwards.

 

[mk12]

If all know the answer what's the point of the daft question then?

Would you be happy if the left start polling those results?

 

[The Black Hand]

To make a comparison, one that might lead to some critical self-reflexion on the part of the BNP is dead/dying crowd. But no, blunder onwards.

What about to 'the BNP are an irritating but not doing much beyond existing crowd'? That is the sort of middle position between your 2 extremes - 'the BNP are doing supa yah'! and the BNP collapsing posse...

 

[The Black Hand]

Would you be happy if the left start polling those results?

Its a fekking stooopid question asked by the stooopid