Griffin and BNP strategy

[durruti02]

hatfield central
lab 425
lib dem 329
con 319
bnp 138
ind 68
1280 bnp = er over 10% 11%??

http://www.welhat.gov.uk/councildemocracy/elections/byelectionhatfieldcentralward

blackpool

con 977
lab 448
bnp 218
libdem 97
ukip 30

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/goldlist/2008/06/some-9pm-observ.html

the tories are crowing about this one .. solid working class apparently 'largest council estate in lancs' etc etc

two solid votes again for bnps but feel tories are stopping them go further .. ( not sure re hatfield .. the tory is listed as a 'local conservative' what is that??) and ukip are yes finished i think

 

[audiotech]

As an aside, but apparently true Griffin's old man has just become a grand master in the freemasons. wtf!

Link over on LU forum confirming this with pics of said father in pinny.

 

[geoff64]

i joined the LU forum and posted once to say "hello" and i've been banned!

No idea what this is about.

Should I try n register again, or just accept they don't like me?

 

[audiotech]

i joined the LU forum and posted once to say "hello" and i've been banned!

No idea what this is about.

Should I try n register again, or just accept they don't like me?

Was it just 'hello'?

 

[JimPage]

i joined the LU forum and posted once to say "hello" and i've been banned!

No idea what this is about.

Should I try n register again, or just accept they don't like me?

They will know from here that you wish to talk about politics and not about Mark Colletts todger, so will probably have banned you for that. Perhaps try a few homophobic comments about Barnbrook - they may print those.

 

[geoff64]

Was it just 'hello'?

there was a thread about no platform - whether fash should be tolerated on the forum. i said hello and basically said 'no, we need to spend time arguing stuff amongst ourselves w/out the distraction of abusing the oppo'

next time i tried to log on i was locked out ...

 

[audiotech]

there was a thread about no platform - whether fash should be tolerated on the forum. i said hello and basically said 'no, we need to spend time arguing stuff amongst ourselves w/out the distraction of abusing the oppo'

next time i tried to log on i was locked out ...

I expressed the same view, as did others on there and still logging on.

Must be a glitch.

Try re-registering?

 

[butchersapron]

I think Jim has got the tenor of the forum right. It's ideal if you want to read propoganda about how the BNP vote is tiny, not a reflection of any underlying movement, how they're about to split and so on - all mixed together with the lamest attempts at humour from adults i've seen for some time. Perfect fare for a few posters here.

 

[LLETSA]

I thought murdering 6 million Jews was "as nazi as you can get".

There are various degrees of Naziness.

 

[JimPage]

On matters BNP, no leadership challenge this year from Colin Auty as he coudl not get the 100 signatures required from BNP members.

 

[durruti02]

On matters BNP, no leadership challenge this year from Colin Auty as he coudl not get the 100 signatures required from BNP members.

well thats the end of the bnp in kirkless for now! has he been expelled yet?

 

[The Black Hand]

News from Antifa

Griffin Goes To Norfolk-Cars attacked during BNP meeting


Several members of a far-right political party had their cars vandalised whilst the group held a meeting in a village near Norwich, it has emerged.

Windscreens were smashed, paint was sprayed across vehicles and paint stripper was poured over three cars parked at the Stoke Mill Conference Centre and Restaurant in Stoke Holy Cross.

Around 100 supporters and members of the British Nationalist Party (BNP) had gathered at the venue for a meeting on Monday evening.

But whilst the meeting was going on, vandals went into the car park and carried out the attack.

A Stoke Holy Cross villager, who did not want to be named, said: “I was cycling past and looked at the car park as there were so many cars parked there. I noticed that one vehicle, a Mitsubishi 4x4, was really badly damaged and another had what looked like goo all over it.

“The third had abuse directed at the BNP sprayed on it. I saw all the people suddenly come out - they had Enoch Powell badges on and I cycled away quickly.”

Today, Ludo Iaccarino, who runs the restaurant and conference centre in Mill Road with his parents, said he did not know who had booked the room until they arrived on Tuesday evening.

And he said more than 100 attended the meeting, when only 50 people were due to turn up.

He added: “Someone came to us to say they wanted to hold a meeting. We didn't know what meeting it was. We are a family business.

“We neither support or are anti the group.”

Today, Nick Griffin, the BNP's leader who was famously cleared of inciting racial hatred in 2006 after attacking Islam, said there had been a lot of support for the group at the Norfolk meeting and they had not received an attack of this kind for years.

He said: “The last time something like this happened was in Halifax three years ago. It's no particular surprise among older hands.”

Police were called to deal with the criminal damage and confirmed that three vehicles had been targeted.

A spokeswoman for Norfolk Constabulary said: “The damage happened between 7.35pm and 8.10pm. Two of the vehicles had windows smashed and all three had what is believed to have been paint stripper poured onto them. This is an area frequented by the public and in particular by local dog walkers.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/06/401007.html

 

[The Black Hand]

THis is funny;

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/07/402522.html

 

[treelover]

Actually over 100 punters turning out for a meeting outside a major city is the big news, the other bit will just increase their support, 80's redux, innit

 

[butchersapron]

Awful crap and just LUAF/searchlight promo material. Back in the real world.

Christchurch Ward (Bexley)

Labour Party 411
British National Party 431
Liberal Democrats 459
Conservative Party 1192

Total Votes Cast 2493
Turnout 29.63%

Can anyone do the %s?

About 17%?

edit: two more results to come.

 

[treelover]

Is that in Kent, Ted Heath's old seat?

 

[butchersapron]

I believe it is. But counts as london.

 

[butchersapron]

Second result in -very near miss:

South Hornchurch Ward

Residents Association of London 17
Independent 661 Elected
Labour 416
UK Independence Party 64
Conservative 438
British National Party 518
English Democrats - 'Putting England First!' 28
Mark Ronald Whitehead 17
Havering Residents Association 287

Good old mix up there. BNP coming out on near on top not good. Again, i'm too thick to do the %s.

 

[treelover]

BA, do you think the attacks on the BNP punters will be counterproductive, i imagine for some people this will be their first political meeting and will be scared
off, for others, i think it will make then more determined and angry.

 

[butchersapron]

Which ones? Do you mean the car windows getting put through as reported above? Neither here nor there really in all honesty. The game isn't being played there - that stuff is just froth. Doesn't effect things one way or the other. The problem comes when that approach is argued for as the answer to to the wider problem. And there are still some people clinging to that.

 

[JHE]

South Hornchurch Ward
Total votes: 2446
BNP vote: 518

BNP percentage: (518/2446) X 100 = 21.18%

 

[butchersapron]

Ta, that makes the other one 17.2%

(is that how you do %s, well i've learnt something today)

 

[butchersapron]

Chadwell Heath
Conservative 842
Labour 691
BNP 564 (25%)
UKIP 142
IND 11

and one i missed

Derbyshire County Council
Eckington Ward

Lab 824
Con 658
Ind 1 300
BNP 253 (11%)
Ind 150
Lib Dem 113

 

[butchersapron]

So 11%, 25%, 17% and 21%. In London & east mids.

 

[treelover]

Eckington is an old mining village, that may explain the lower vote for the BNP

 

[The Black Hand]

BA, do you think the attacks on the BNP punters will be counterproductive, i imagine for some people this will be their first political meeting and will be scared
off, for others, i think it will make then more determined and angry.

These are the reactions in the real world as opposed to the OTT ultra political world of Big Arse. Of course some will be scared, some will not like the idea of having to fork out the extra money for the damages of being associated with the BNP.

There are some no matter what you did to them who won't change, but thankfully they are in an absolute minority.

In short it is a good thing this happened, the only problem is that it doesn't happen enough.

 

[mk12]

So 11%, 25%, 17% and 21%. In London & east mids.

The left would love to get results like that.

 

[The Black Hand]

The left would love to get results like that.

FFS how many times have i heard that shite before - ahistorical apolitical atheoretical and apractical crap.

I called you a cuckoo before and I was right

 

[mk12]

Would the Left List be happy with those results?

 

[LLETSA]

There are some no matter what you did to them who won't change, but thankfully they are in an absolute minority.

If only this could be said of what remains of the radical left.