Griffin and BNP strategy

[The39thStep]

Just got the Goodwin book on New British Fascism , will read on holiday.

 

[The Black Hand]

If only we had a time machine

It was just so you could chase up his published work nobhed.

 

[butchersapron]

I've come across him before, he's one of those semi-stalinists, one of those who follow Deustcher's line from the 50s that said revolutionaries must make peace with the USSR and the form of social organisation that existed there. His area is international relations during the cold war, interested to see how he fits the far right into this.

 

[The Black Hand]

I've come across him before, he's one of those semi-stalinists, one of those who follow Deustcher's line from the 50s that said revolutionaries must make peace with the USSR and the form of social organisation that existed there. His area is international relations during the cold war, interested to see how he fits the far right into this.

Good comment Butch As you say, fitting it all into 'political economy'/'historical materialism'/'Dialectical materialism' (use your preferred option or make up your own) is a project worth reading.

 

[Stay Beautiful]

Griffin wins the leadership contest..... BY 9 VOTES!

 

[claphamboy]

Griffin wins the leadership contest..... BY 9 VOTES!

That IMO is good news, it shows how divided the fuckwits are, I reckon even more of the 'main-players' that are anti-Griffin will be leaving over the coming weeks & months now that their final hopes of change have been dashed.

Upon the announcement of his re-election, Nick Griffin said: “The time for division and disruption is over; now is the time to heal. Now is the time to move on. Now is the time to get back to work. We have a Party to build and a Nation to save. Let us go forward together!”

I am sure many will do just that.

 

[Stay Beautiful]

That IMO is good news, it shows how divided the fuckwits are, I reckon even more of the 'main-players' that are anti-Griffin will be leaving over the coming weeks & months now that their final hopes of change have been dashed.

Yes, hilarious reading some of the anti-Griffin sites at the moment. Lots of giving up on politics posts, combined with 'no chance of saving our country now'. Ah, diddums!

 

[claphamboy]

Yes, hilarious reading some of the anti-Griffin sites at the moment. Lots of giving up on politics posts, combined with 'no chance of saving our country now'. Ah, diddums!

Which sites are you looking at?

Break any links, no direct linking, we don't the fuckwits turning-up here.

 

[Stay Beautiful]

Which sites are you looking at?

Break any links, no direct linking, we don't the fuckwits turning-up here.

British Democracy Forum and the The British Resistance, aka the Green Arrow loon who went from loyal to anti overnight.

 

[claphamboy]

British Democracy Forum and the The British Resistance, aka the Green Arrow loon who went from loyal to anti overnight.

Cheers , I'll take a look tomorrow, sleep needed now - up at 5 am again tomorrow.

 

[audiotech]

From the BNP website:

Now that all the votes have been counted, we can announce that Nick Griffin MEP has been duly re-elected to lead the British National Party for a fixed term of four years. The winner, Nick Griffin, received 1157 votes, whilst Andrew Brons, the loser, received 1148 votes. Eleven ballots were spoiled.

Upon the announcement of his re-election, Nick Griffin said: “The time for division and disruption is over; now is the time to heal. Now is the time to move on. Now is the time to get back to work. We have a Party to build and a Nation to save. Let us go forward together!"

 

[skitr]

From the BNP website:

By spoiled, does it mean Griffin destroyed them?

 

[audiotech]

Unlikely, but his security team, who were reportedly out in force at the count, might have?

 

[Pickman's model]

will the last one out of the bnp turn out the lights?

there you go, a return to the streets looks somewhat more likely.

 

[audiotech]

will the last one out of the bnp turn out the lights?

there you go, a return to the streets looks somewhat more likely.

It's referred to as an OAP outing these days I've heard?

 

[lazyhack]

Its good that the BNP are so inept internally because the British left really wouldn't stand a chance against a coherent far right movement.

 

[audiotech]

Barking.

 

[lazyhack]

Barking.

The reason they were able to get where they did in Barking hasn't gone away.

 

[love detective]

Its good that the BNP are so inept internally because the British left really wouldn't stand a chance against a coherent far right movement.

it didn't stand a chance against an 'incoherent' one

 

[audiotech]

The reason they were able to get where they did in Barking hasn't gone away.

I never said it had.

 

[Joe Reilly]

Its good that the BNP are so inept internally because the British left really wouldn't stand a chance against a coherent far right movement.

Is there still 'a British left'?

 

[elbows]

The article does not say, but I presume these events have caused the remaining BNP councillor in my local area to leave the party, ho ho:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...n-quits-to-become-independent-92746-29134150/

THE only British National Party member on Nuneaton and Bedworth Borough Council has defected from the party and declared himself an Independent.

Martyn Findley will no longer represent Barpool ward under the BNP banner but will continue to serve as a councillor until the next election in May 2012.

Explaining his decision, he said: “The BNP has gone backwards.

"I have been involved with the party for more than a decade but the progression has come to a halt and it is not something I could tolerate.

“The decision to quit is something I have been considering for some time.

“I feel I need to be honest, although I will not let my consituents down and will continue to work hard for them.”

Coun Findley was one of two BNP candidates to be elected onto the council three years ago.

His colleague, Darren Hayward resigned in 2009 and his seat in Camp Hill was regained by Labour in a by-election.

He said: “I have not been head-hunted or approached by any other party and will stay on as an Independent councillor for Barpool.

"I have left the BNP as a point of principle and I have not decided what to do about standing again next year.”

Coun Findley now becomes the third Independent sitting on the borough council, following the resignations from the opposition Tory party last year of John Ison and Tom Wilson.

 

[The39thStep]

will the last one out of the bnp turn out the lights?

there you go, a return to the streets looks somewhat more likely.

for whom?

 

[TremulousTetra]

will the last one out of the bnp turn out the lights?

there you go, a return to the streets looks somewhat more likely.

So the UAF tactic worked, again.

 

[ViolentPanda]

So the UAF tactic worked, again.

That's right, it was Weyman's Warriors wot won it!

 

[TremulousTetra]

That's right, it was Weyman's Warriors wot won it!

lol an @kiiiiiiist's = KPD = epic fail.

 

[ViolentPanda]

lol an @kiiiiiiist's = KPD = epic fail.

Okay, my sneering little Swappie, how did the UAF's tactics work insofar as the BNP are having a breakdown?

Was it all the chanting, and calling people Nazis?

Or perhaps it was the standing around and posturing?

Or was it the mobilisation in Barking and Dagenham, where anti-fascists poured in from all over, but the UAF and HnH took all the credit for?

 

[SpineyNorman]

lol an @kiiiiiiist's = KPD = epic fail.

It's clear to anyone with an ounce of objectivity that the BNP have imploded despite, rather than because of, UAF actions. The damage came from within - possibly aided by a bit of sabotage from Searchlight/the state (if you believe the conspiracy theories, which do seem plausible at least).

 

[TremulousTetra]

Okay, my sneering little Swappie, how did the UAF's tactics work insofar as the BNP are having a breakdown?

Was it all the chanting, and calling people Nazis?

Or perhaps it was the standing around and posturing?

Or was it the mobilisation in Barking and Dagenham, where anti-fascists poured in from all over, but the UAF and HnH took all the credit for?

How did the @kiiiiiiiiist's = KPD 'tactic's' effect the BNP?

 

[past caring]

Where did he make the claim that they did?