Griffin and BNP strategy

[taffboy gwyrdd]

It's a large story - don't pretend that its not. You'd whine like a dog if your party was in the same situ.

Small-ish party has a spot of bother with legal intepretations. Dull story except for the party being racist. It's the racism that's the story. Don't pretend it's not. If my party was in trouble and I thought it was unfair I would whine. I wouldn't expect next to top billing on news bulletins.

 

[Combustible]

I was wrong. Let's all clap state inteference in political association.

That really is straw clutching. I mean don't most Trot and other left wing groups vet potential members in a similar way (don't know about home visits) and they presumably they expect new members to certain political principles. Surely anyone who actually wanted to join the BNP 'legitimately' wouldn't be intimidated by a home visit. I mean what does ""It would be jolly difficult for a mixed-race person to join the BNP without effectively denying themselves," actually mean.

BTW does anyone know if the EHRC had a statutory obligation to investigate the BNP for whatever reason or did they take it on themselves to launch it. I mean why haven't similar proceedings been launched against the NF?

 

[Davo1]

That really is straw clutching. I mean don't most Trot and other left wing groups vet potential members in a similar way (don't know about home visits) and they presumably they expect new members to certain political principles. Surely anyone who actually wanted to join the BNP 'legitimately' wouldn't be intimidated by a home visit. I mean what does ""It would be jolly difficult for a mixed-race person to join the BNP without effectively denying themselves," actually mean.

BTW does anyone know if the EHRC had a statutory obligation to investigate the BNP for whatever reason or did they take it on themselves to launch it. I mean why haven't similar proceedings been launched against the NF?

Er, no. They give them control of the budget instead:

http://www.workerspower.com/index.php?id=26,101,0,0,1,0

 

[Divisive Cotton]

I was wrong. Let's all clap state inteference in political association.


It's an injunction on new members, not a final ruling.

Reading it what they seem to object to is that prospective members will be visited at home - most small parties would carry out a home visit for new members

 

[audiotech]

oops

 

[The39thStep]

The BNP are now open for members. Don't have to agree with anything, just join and the call centre is open now.Please call.

 

[The Black Hand]

Both are half decent results for fascism, one being a 3rd place, the other being credible enough of itself. The disproportionate media attention is paying dividends

True, they do nothing. All publicity is good publicity etc.

 

[The Black Hand]

I was wrong. Let's all clap state inteference in political association.

They always have though, nothing new.

 

[The Black Hand]

Small-ish party has a spot of bother with legal intepretations. Dull story except for the party being racist. It's the racism that's the story. Don't pretend it's not. If my party was in trouble and I thought it was unfair I would whine. I wouldn't expect next to top billing on news bulletins.

Well said.

 

[The Black Hand]

BNP having a go at preventing government policy on targetting extremism being effective;
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bnp-fights-extremism-strategy-1921046.html

 

[Jeff Robinson]

'Neo-Nazi granny' is BNP candidate for Mayor of Lewisham (pictured left)

Tess Culnane, who previously ran unsuccessfully for the far-right National Front at the London Assembly, has now been named as the British National Party (BNP) candidate for Mayor of Lewisham.

Ms Culnane, a long-term resident of the borough, has also spoken at a meeting of the British People’s Party (BPP), an extreme-right group which supports repatriation of immigrants and banning abortion.

The party sells busts of Adolf Hitler for £15 on its website, along with books on the Klu Klux Klan.

In a speech on the internet, Miss Culnane talks of people being "infected" with multiculturalism and speaks about an "invasion" of Britain.

 

[IMR]

Ha! Ha! Fantastic pic in the paper today from some anti-BNP play (A Day at the Racists):

How bang on the money and up-to-date is that

Don't wanna go down in the tube station at midnight

 

[The39thStep]

'Neo-Nazi granny' is BNP candidate for Mayor of Lewisham (pictured left)

That will put people off voting for her as similar revelations did with Andrew Brons

 

[Jeff Robinson]

That will put people off voting for her as similar revelations did with Andrew Brons

Yeah, best not mention it at all eh Step? After all, wouldn't want anything to get in the way of the seething jealousy of your disillusioned, ex-trot, post vanguardist existential crisis now would we?

 

[The39thStep]

Yeah, best not mention it at all eh Step? After all, wouldn't want anything to get in the way of the seething jealousy of your disillusioned, ex-trot, post vanguardist existential crisis now would we?

I can understand the ex trot , post vanguardist bit but not the seething jealous and disillusioned existentialist crisis part. As someone who obviously has a naturally high sense of perception, self awareness and analysis can you develop your insight further? Or have you reached your zenith in cutting and pasting articles 'exposing' the fact that members of the far right were previously members of other far right groups?

 

[Pickman's model]

'Neo-Nazi granny' is BNP candidate for Mayor of Lewisham (pictured left)

and which part of that is news?

 

[ViolentPanda]

and which part of that is news?

Am I seeing things, or is the circle and cross-hairs on those posters the old British Movement logo?

 

[Pickman's model]

Am I seeing things, or is the circle and cross-hairs on those posters the old British Movement logo?

it's a celtic cross, hardly unique to the bm

 

[ViolentPanda]

it's a celtic cross, hardly unique to the bm

Hard to see. I thought it might be the old BM logo because it was next to a confederate flag, which the BM used to have a quaint fondness for.

And don't roll your eyes. It's bad for the digestion, you bilious old fart.

E2A: Since when has a Celtic cross had straight rather than flared arms?

 

[The Black Hand]

Am I seeing things, or is the circle and cross-hairs on those posters the old British Movement logo?

Am I seeing things or is that Ricky Tomlinson!

 

[Larry O'Hara]

E2A: Since when has a Celtic cross had straight rather than flared arms?

Well, it isn't as such a Celtic cross, more a sun-wheel. And not exclusively BM (who still exist BTW: Broadsword is essential reading for those aspiring to joined up writing). The political soldier NF used the sunwheel a fair bit...

PS the picture isn't from a BNP meeting: looks like BPP, judging by personnel/logos. I'll leave the omniscient TBH to tell you who they are (autonomously)...

 

[fractionMan]

Fuck her for stealing the confederate flag too.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

PS the picture isn't from a BNP meeting: looks like BPP

Correct, background here:

http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=5244

 

[DotCommunist]

'stealing' it?

 

[butchersapron]

Oops

 

[audiotech]

. Well, it isn't as such a Celtic cross, more a sun-wheel. And not exclusively BM (who still exist BTW: Broadsword is essential reading for those aspiring to joined up writing). The political soldier NF used the sunwheel a fair bit...

Final Conflict, the remnants of the political soldier NF, still use the sun-wheel as a masthead on their website, not essential reading.

Two of those in that pic are now dead. The others featured are the living dead.

 

[audiotech]

Am I seeing things or is that Ricky Tomlinson!

You are definitely seeing things.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Am I seeing things or is that Ricky Tomlinson!

l to r: Pat Butcher, Joe Royle, Chip the chipmunk and Greg Dyke.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Well, it isn't as such a Celtic cross, more a sun-wheel. And not exclusively BM (who still exist BTW: Broadsword is essential reading for those aspiring to joined up writing). The political soldier NF used the sunwheel a fair bit...

Back in the 70s, just about every bill the BM stuck up seemed to have it either in the top right or bottom right corner.
I spent 2 whole "graphic art" lessons at school in '76 cutting a stencil out of perspex that carried the simple analysis "WANKERS!" in inch-high letters so that I could spray my opinion across their and the NF's posters and bills. My slightly mad art teacher approved. He suggested I go for "CUNTS!" instead, and take photos of the results as part of a course project, but as it was part of the O level coursework, I thought "CUNTS!" might be a bit strong. I'll have to see if the negatives are still usable next time I visit my parents

Ah, the innocence of the early teen!

 

[audiotech]

A former leader of the British National Party (BNP) in Stoke-on-Trent has criticised his old party as he prepares to fight it in the general election.

Mr Walker told the BBC's Politics Show in the West Midlands:

There's a vein of Holocaust denying within the BNP that I cannot identify myself with. They've still got senior members of the BNP who will be candidates in the general election that have Nazi, Nazi-esque sympathies.

Bears in woods, pope etc.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/8579023.stm?