Goldsmiths University Diversity officer facing sack

[likesfish]

So nothing of value then?

 

[Dowie]

sounds like they all need to get a grip - elected officials with different views/agendas arguing and bickering with each other, who'd have thought that could happen?

 

[killer b]

Goldsmiths is an odd place isn't it? Maryam Namazie was speaking to the atheist society there on Monday night, which sparked a chain of events resulting in - among other things - the Goldsmiths Feminist Society putting out a statement 'standing with' the Islamic society against an ex-muslim feminist.

Goldsmiths ISOC fails to intimidate and silence dissenters

 

[TopCat]

Bonkers Bruno.

 

[butchersapron]

These people are not funny now.

 

[killer b]

is this kind of bullshit happening all over or is Goldsmiths some kind of hotbed of total pricks?

 

[DotCommunist]

given the previous form I'd guess at the latter

 

[butchersapron]

is this kind of bullshit happening all over or is Goldsmiths some kind of hotbed of total pricks?

Goldsmiths a hot bed of dickery?

 

[killer b]

I know, it seems unlikely.

 

[butchersapron]

I know, it seems unlikely.

My sister went there - the only one one in whole fucking family ever and that's where she ended up.

 

[killer b]

It's very brave of you to talk about it butch - I know it must hurt.

 

[butchersapron]

I will not be silenced by these terrorists.

 

[sihhi]

It is all a bit weird Goldsmith's Feminist Society promotes Goldsmith's Sex Worker Solidarity Society. The latter's rules for members posting on facebook page:

Do not speak over sex workers. ...
If you yourself are a “civilian” (a person who has not engaged in sex work or transactional sex) or are otherwise discussing topics you have no personal knowledge of or personal stake in, consider the assumptions and knowledge that you bring to all discussions and be mindful of this. By the same token, knowing your own personal position is not the same as knowing that of others.

 

[J Ed]

Goldsmiths is an odd place isn't it? Maryam Namazie was speaking to the atheist society there on Monday night, which sparked a chain of events resulting in - among other things - the Goldsmiths Feminist Society putting out a statement 'standing with' the Islamic society against an ex-muslim feminist.

Goldsmiths ISOC fails to intimidate and silence dissenters

Their ISOC's main ostensible objection was that Namazie was violating their 'safe space'. You would have to be a seriously gullible fool to buy into that, and sure enough...

 

[butchersapron]

If you're against Maryam Namazie then you're in trouble.

 

[killer b]

a known islamophobe, it says here.

 

[butchersapron]

a known islamophobe, it says here.

Maryam? ( id did read the 'piece' btw)

 

[butchersapron]

I fear for our future.

 

[killer b]

Maryam? ( id did read the 'piece' btw)

the goldsmiths femsoc statement (are you still struggling with the new embeds?)

Goldsmiths Feminist Society stands in solidarity with Goldsmiths Islamic Society. We support them in condemning the actions of the Atheist, Secularist and Humanist Society and agree that hosting known islamophobes at our university creates a climate of hatred.

 

[J Ed]

I fear for our future.

This stuff isn't going away is it? It's being institutionalised.

 

[J Ed]

BTW the latest Behind the News podcast discusses how 'safe space' talk is being used by university authorities in the US as justification for suppressing protest which is interesting.

 

[butchersapron]

the goldsmiths femsoc statement (are you still struggling with the new embeds?)

Goldsmiths Feminist Society stands in solidarity with Goldsmiths Islamic Society. We support them in condemning the actions of the Atheist, Secularist and Humanist Society and agree that hosting known islamophobes at our university creates a climate of hatred.

Nah, just forgot what you posted up above. (The ghostery tip worked btw for anyone else having trouble).

 

[not-bono-ever]

that is some scarey shit

 

[J Ed]

I wonder how many people have been turned off of decent politics by the mad defence of Islamists and Islamist demands by intersectionalista culture war shit both directly and indirectly, a lot I bet.

 

[andysays]

a known islamophobe, it says here.

This is the "logic" by which this sort of subjectivist identity politics works - if a handful of members of the Islamic Society at Goldsmiths say that Maryam Namazie is islamophobic, then she becomes "a known islamophobe", simple as.

To question that, to ask them to explain why or put forward an argument to back up their assertion would be to commit that cardinal sin of ID politics, to "deny their experience". It's ridiculous, but it's not surprising - it's not that different to some of the subjectivist guff that gets posted on threads here from time to time.

It appears to be commonplace in the smallish bubble of the student left/commentariat/intersectionalist world, but I'm still not sure how significant it is beyond that, just as I'm not sure how significant the whole Diversity Officer tweets furore is/was in the wider world.

 

[TopCat]

Cheap at the price...

 

[killer b]

I wonder how many people have been turned off of decent politics by the mad defence of Islamists and Islamist demands by intersectionalista culture war shit both directly and indirectly, a lot I bet.

Probably, but if you go looking for mad shit, it's easy to find: there's alway some tool on twitter ready to be held up as evidence for whatever point you may be wishing to make.

I think the sudden interest in intersectional student politics in the national press is part of a general push to discredit left wing politics in general. I don't know how institutionalised this stuff is - probably not as bad as you think. It's just been magnified by people with an agenda.

 

[Wilf]

Probably, but if you go looking for mad shit, it's easy to find: there's alway some tool on twitter ready to be held up as evidence for whatever point you may be wishing to make.

I think the sudden interest in intersectional student politics in the national press is part of a general push to discredit left wing politics in general. I don't know how institutionalised this stuff is - probably not as bad as you think. It's just been magnified by people with an agenda.

When it comes to 'respecting' people you disagree with, there are certainly parallels between personnel departments and intersectionalists (and not just as a linguistic overlap).

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I think the sudden interest in intersectional student politics in the national press is part of a general push to discredit left wing politics in general. I don't know how institutionalised this stuff is - probably not as bad as you think. It's just been magnified by people with an agenda.

I have honestly never come across it outside of the internet, and by that I mean these boards and stories linked to from it really. I've never heard anyone even discuss it I don't think.

 

[butchersapron]

Probably, but if you go looking for mad shit, it's easy to find: there's alway some tool on twitter ready to be held up as evidence for whatever point you may be wishing to make.

I think the sudden interest in intersectional student politics in the national press is part of a general push to discredit left wing politics in general. I don't know how institutionalised this stuff is - probably not as bad as you think. It's just been magnified by people with an agenda.

I don't think so - there are mad people in position now who weren't before using a set of justifications that they didn't before.