Goldsmiths University Diversity officer facing sack

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[Wilf]

he was saying "more backwards than the british army" is a sentence. you're not up to mixing it with the big pedants, two sheds, back to the little pedants' sandpit with you.

But it's the play off season. Anyone who has underperformed all year can still get a chance of promotion.

 

[Wilf]

curses

You're only a little pedant, too, though. Proper big pedants who criticize other peoples' grammar start their sentences with a capital letter.

This is a battle you cannot win.

 

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Oops poor signal and trying to do this stuff on a phone

 

[Citizen66]

Oops poor signal and trying to do this stuff on a phone

I think the board might be wobbling. I've been having connection issues anyway.

 

[cesare]

And so now they consider me to be a mcarthyite extremist for defending myself?

Exactly.

 

[cesare]

Timely post elsewhere:



http://www.versobooks.com/blogs/2009-judith-butler-on-gender-and-the-trans-experience

I hadn't read that interview before but the button had told me the salient points. Thanks for posting it Rutita1

 

[cesare]

The Terfs have been so silenced by us that they seem to have free access to the media to say what they like about us with no right to reply and fully knowing the shitstorm they have created for us. I was nearly driven off twitter and out if politics by this article. You have yo look hard for my name but after it was published i was fair game for terfs and a campaign to have me deselcted began. Meanwhile i had no opportunity to say a word in my defence!
http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...d-it-was-female-only-spaces-helped-me-recover

Many of us spit every time the New Statesman is sourced. It's a rich vein for the kind of politics that get hauled over the coals in the urban v the commentariat thread in this forum.

 

[Pickman's model]

Many of us spit every time the New Statesman is sourced. It's a rich vein for the kind of politics that get hauled over the coals in the urban v the commentariat thread in this forum.

fortunately most people who despise the ns do not spit whenever it is sourced or we would all drown.

 

[cesare]

fortunately most people who despise the ns do not spit whenever it is sourced or we would all drown.

Good point.

 

[Nice one]

Mustafa keeps her job. Sanity prevails or green light for intersectional politics on campus?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...of-no-confidence-petition-fails-10277562.html

 

[8ball]

Mustafa keeps her job. Sanity prevails or green light for intersectional politics on campus?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...of-no-confidence-petition-fails-10277562.html

I thought intersectional politics were all they did on campus.

 

[Pickman's model]

Mustafa keeps her job. Sanity prevails or green light for intersectional politics on campus?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...of-no-confidence-petition-fails-10277562.html

just a sign that trying to no-confidence sabbaticals is very difficult: and even if they had got 240 students to sign the petition term would be all but over before the referendum - the next stage - occurred, and so it would have been kicked into the long grass.

 

[Batboy]

Goldsmiths Students' Union has now said the petition has failed after only 1.9 per cent of its 8,000 members signed it. The students' union has added however that concerns raised will be addressed.

1.9% turnout.... It's nice to see politics, NSU and voting/signing petition is widely embraced by students in our education system

Almost a bigger vote/interest on these boards!

Edited to satisfy nit pickers.

 

[Pickman's model]

Goldsmiths Students' Union has now said the petition has failed after only 1.9 per cent of its 8,000 members signed it. The students' union has added however that concerns raised will be addressed.

1.9% turnout.... It's nice to see politics, NSU and voting is widely embraced by students in our education system

Almost a bigger vote on these boards!

you do know signing a petition and voting are different things?

 

[Batboy]

you do know signing a petition and voting are different things?

yes I do... but it often amounts to a similar thing don't be a smarty pants
You could conclude that the 98.1% who didn't bother to vote/sign petition call it what you like, because they don't give a shit, in much the same way as I don't.

 

[Pickman's model]

yes I do... but it often amounts to a similar thing don't be a smarty pants
You could conclude that the 98.1% who didn't bother to vote/sign petition call it what you like, because they don't give a shit, in much the same way as I don't.

what you have here is a special sort of motion to call a referendum. whereas most su motions require something like a proposer and 10 seconders this required 240 people to append their names to the motion. the motion would then have been the subject of campaigns for and against and then - and only then - would any actual voting or turning out have taken place. the 1.9% of the student population is now irrelevant as only if it had reached 3% or higher would anything have happened as a result. you may say you don't give a shit, but that's no excuse for spouting it.

 

[Wilf]

yes I do... but it often amounts to a similar thing don't be a smarty pants
You could conclude that the 98.1% who didn't bother to vote/sign petition call it what you like, because they don't give a shit, in much the same way as I don't.

No, not at all. Petition calls for the erection of a Margaret Thatcher statue outside the main lecture theatre of a university. Only 1% of students sign it. Good or bad?

 

[Batboy]

No, not at all. Petition calls for the erection of a Margaret Thatcher statue outside the main lecture theatre of a university. Only 1% of students vote in favour. Good or bad?

99% didn't give a shit.... nor do I!

 

[Pickman's model]

99% didn't give a shit.... nor do I!

you may say you don't give a shit, but that's no excuse for spouting it.

 

[Batboy]

what you have here is a special sort of motion to call a referendum. whereas most su motions require something like a proposer and 10 seconders this required 240 people to append their names to the motion. the motion would then have been the subject of campaigns for and against and then - and only then - would any actual voting or turning out have taken place. the 1.9% of the student population is now irrelevant as only if it had reached 3% or higher would anything have happened as a result. you may say you don't give a shit, but that's no excuse for spouting it.

The fact that 98.1% of 8000 people couldn't be arsed to sign the petition is the more pertinent point.... far more important things in life than worrying about some silly sausage making stupid comments.

 

[Wilf]

99% didn't give a shit.... nor do I!

Most petitions allow you to register only support for a single position. Votes allow support for more than 1 position (or candidate). You do get this, don't you?

 

[Batboy]

Ambivalence is an overriding factor in most of these situations. People often say they will do things but then they don't because they can't be arsed.

 

[Batboy]

Most petitions allow you to register only support for a single position. Votes allow support for more than 1 position (or candidate). You do get this, don't you?

Indeed. Of course I don't I'm fucking stupid/drunk/mentally deranged/something else. I think you are missing my point.