Goldsmiths University Diversity officer facing sack

[BigMoaner]

no you fuck off you little gimp.

 

[cantsin]

no you fuck off you little gimp.

great stuff.

clown.

 

[Blagsta]

Birthing room

Not a woman only space

 

[Pickman's model]

Why wouldn't they be appropriate for men who might have undergone dv or suffered rape?

i thought the words 'women's refuge' might have given away the game in the one instance. and the rcg might also cater for men, you don't know.

 

[BigMoaner]

So i will send some of my black mates around to whisper in your ear that they are gonna kill all the whites and watch you shit yourself and larf. Wanker.

 

[Pickman's model]

So i will send some of my black mates around to whisper in your ear that they are gonna kill all the whites and watch you shit yourself and larf. Wanker.

what a charmer you are

 

[J Ed]

So i will send some of my black mates around to whisper in your ear that they are gonna kill all the whites and watch you shit yourself and larf. Wanker.

Sounds like it might be a bit awkward to bring that up as a suggestion...

 

[frogwoman]

Yes, I'm sure there is a lack of support (and indeed a lack of support for men who have experienced rape and DV) but I'm not sure asking women to give up some space is the way to address it.

I agree but these places should be better funded in general. If the whole place was expanded and womens services adequately funded, it need not be giving any space up.

 

[Thora]

i thought the words 'women's refuge' might have given away the game in the one instance. and the rcg might also cater for men, you don't know.

If the words "women's refuge" give it away then what are you asking about?

 

[Thora]

I agree but these places should be better funded in general. If the whole place was expanded and womens services adequately funded, it need not be giving any space up.

That's certainly the ideal.

 

[cesare]

Yes, I'm sure there is a lack of support (and indeed a lack of support for men who have experienced rape and DV) but I'm not sure asking women to give up some space is the way to address it.

They wouldn't be giving up space. They'd be including trans women. It's an inclusion that doesn't do harm.

 

[likesfish]

And the army at number 46

Tbf the forces take equality seriously these days.
Nb most of the abuse aimed at the padre who marched on gay pride was about the fact he was fat and his uniform was a sack of shit. rather than he was gay.

 

[BigMoaner]

what a charmer you are

I don't rationalise racism though!!!

 

[cantsin]

So i will send some of my black mates around to whisper in your ear that they are gonna kill all the whites and watch you shit yourself and larf. Wanker.

lolz, of course you will sunshine, you've got a Wall avatar, I'm already shitting myself.

ffs...

#AMF

 

[frogwoman]

I agree there are valid concerns around it (el-ahrairah knows a bit more than me) and the fact this sort of stuff has been abused by people claiming to be transgender when they're not. However the idea that womens refuges even seperately catering to trans women being 'giving space up' seems like a bit of a 'race to the bottom' argument tbh.

 

[Thora]

They wouldn't be giving up space. They'd be including trans women. It's an inclusion that doesn't do harm.

The point of having a women-only space for women who have experienced rape or DV is surely to create a sense of safety, and think many women would find including transwomen or men, even if they had also experienced those issues, would impact on that.

 

[equationgirl]

I guess in a way I wasn't the person they thought they knew - at that point I didn't even know myself until I transitioned. They only knew who I was pretending to be!

But my boss tried to stop me going on site and made me do more officey admin stuff which is just sexist bullshit!!!

That is just sexist shit. You'd think we'd be past that crap now, but no.
Sorry you didn't get more support at work too

 

[BigMoaner]

I live in a largely black area and have experienced racism towards me and trust me if certain neighbours of mine were acting racist towards me it would be very, very intimidating so take your "years of western imperialism" and stick it!

 

[cesare]

I agree there are valid concerns around it (el-ahrairah knows a bit more than me) and the fact this sort of stuff has been abused by people claiming to be transgender when they're not. However the idea that womens refuges even seperately catering to trans women being 'giving space up' seems like a bit of a 'race to the bottom' argument tbh.

It's a race to the bottom, and also pretty insulting to trans women. It's a bit like the arguments against the burka because of blokes doing armed robberies wearing them innit.

 

[Thora]

I agree there are valid concerns around it (el-ahrairah knows a bit more than me) and the fact this sort of stuff has been abused by people claiming to be transgender when they're not. However the idea that womens refuges even seperately catering to trans women being 'giving space up' seems like a bit of a 'race to the bottom' argument tbh.

Women's refuges catering separately would be creating additional space rather than giving space up. I meant including men or transwomen in women's refuges would be taking women-only spaces from women.

 

[cesare]

Women's refuges catering separately would be creating additional space rather than giving space up. I meant including men or transwomen in women's refuges would be taking women-only spaces from women.

Trans women *are* women.

 

[Thora]

Trans women *are* women.

Depends how you choose to define women doesn't it?

 

[cesare]

Depends how you choose to define women doesn't it?

How do *you* define women?

 

[frogwoman]

As womens space and funding for rape crisis support (trans or not) is being slashed to fuck by budget cuts, how relevant is this to the real world? Surely the reason rape crisis centres are closing is due to capitalism?

 

[Thora]

How do *you* define women?

Female adults.

 

[Pickman's model]

If the words "women's refuge" give it away then what are you asking about?

are you saying trans women are in fact men?

 

[Pickman's model]

Female adults.

and define female...

 

[Thora]

are you saying trans women are in fact men?

I'm saying transwomen are transwomen

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm saying transwomen are transwomen

but not women.

 

[cesare]

I'm saying transwomen are transwomen

Do you think that trans women are women?