Gaza under attack yet again.

[Pickman's model]

A bit about the backdrop to this offensive.


http://972mag.com/not-just-escalati...age-in-jewish-arab-relations-in-israel/93392/

not a like for the quote in your post but for raising this issue. when i looked into racism within the zionist entity some years ago it was quickly obvious the zionists were creating a very very racist society, something which the media and governments in europe prefer to ignore.

 

[teqniq]

A number of tweets saying at least another 10-15 dead after two airstrikes one of which hit a mosque

 

[Pickman's model]

A number of tweets saying at least another 10-15 dead after two airstrikes one of which hit a mosque

you'd never hear the end of it if it had hit a synagogue

 

[Awesome Wells]

What's the bets when Israel stop this current assault they will block aid.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

AFP: Israeli army says northern Israel has been hit by rockets from Lebanon

 

[Mr.Bishie]

@MohammedYIsmail
Death toll in #Gaza raised to 151 martyrs, 1063 injuries due to 2101 Israeli raids which destroyed 357 civilian houses.

 

[Pickman's model]

a possible positive might be to help make many of the factions fighting in syria to sit up and start making up their differences. - grasping at silver linings to this rather large cloud. but lebanese involvement might make this sitation more, er, interesting

 

[Mr.Bishie]

A senior military source says that the IDF will mount a significant military operation in the coming hours, after the [civilian] population is cleared from areas from which rockets are fired, mainly in northern Gaza. Residents [to be cleared] will receive announcements, SMS messages, media bulletins and leaflets. According to the military source, this type of operation is accepted under international law. Israel did the same in the past in Lebanon and that experience proves a population may be cleared from an area exploited for the purposes of acts of terror.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

[Pickman's model]

Mr.Bishie

i wonder what the interplay's been in recent years about military ops on urban terrain between the idf and the us army.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Egyptian Authorities Bar European Medics from Gaza

http://www.imemc.org/article/68444

 

[Pickman's model]

Mr.Bishie

i wonder what the interplay's been in recent years about military ops on urban terrain between the idf and the us army.

here you have it: 'back to basics: a study of the second lebanon war and operation cast lead' http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/cgsc/CARL/download/csipubs/farquhar.pdf

 

[Mr.Bishie]

here you have it: 'back to basics: a study of the second lebanon war and operation cast lead' http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/cgsc/CARL/download/csipubs/farquhar.pdf

Was just about to say I was unsure what you meant in previous post. Will have a read.

 

[Pickman's model]

Was just about to say I was unsure what you meant in previous post. Will have a read.

what i was getting at was i wondered what lessons the zionist entity had drawn from the americans' extensive experience in military operations on urban terrain over the past decade and what the americans had learnt from the zionists.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

not a like for the quote in your post but for raising this issue. when i looked into racism within the zionist entity some years ago it was quickly obvious the zionists were creating a very very racist society, something which the media and governments in europe prefer to ignore.

It's an incredibly racist society. The way they treat Sudanese refugees is nothing short of appalling. I never fail to be staggered by the fact a nation born out of a murderous catastrophe to happen to its people can behave in the way it does.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

what i was getting at was i wondered what lessons the zionist entity had drawn from the americans' extensive experience in military operations on urban terrain over the past decade and what the americans had learnt from the zionists.

Arms & ordnance would spring to mind.

 

[Pickman's model]

Arms & ordnance would spring to mind.

yes, but perhaps more importantly they'll have explored tactics and so on for urban warfare: although when only one side's really fighting i don't know if warfare's the right word, i'll stick with the less wieldy 'military operations on urban terrain'

 

[Mr.Bishie]

yes, but perhaps more importantly they'll have explored tactics and so on for urban warfare: although when only one side's really fighting i don't know if warfare's the right word, i'll stick with the less wieldy 'military operations on urban terrain'

I don't doubt they've swapped notes. Both forces have operational differences - 'bomb the fuck out of everything from the air & water' seems to be a common trait. Would Benny risk a ground invasion of conscripts & reservists involved in FIBUA? Lebanon didn't go to well.

e2a: If Israeli forces & US forces wanted to learn from anyone, it'd be Hezbollah.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

#Hebron earlier tonight to watch rockets 4 #Gaza

 

[Mr.Bishie]

‏@lisang
Any response to Gaza Min of Health claim that IDF is using DIME weapons in Gaza?

DIME (Dense Inert Metal Explosive) designed by the US Air Force in 2006, & Israel denied using it against Gaza in 2009.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Is there any proof offered by the Israelis of the claim that Hamas operate from mosques, schools, hospitals and so on? They always trot this out but I never see any proof. There is certainly proof of the claim that they're in the centre of urban areas because where else they gonna be? That place is so packed the entire strip's pretty much an urban area.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

From IDF social media:

 

[Dr Jon]

they can't even spell defence

 

[Doctor Carrot]

This is even worse:

'Oh go on America. What would you do eh? Support us America, support us in our murderous endeavours, America. Afterall it's you who gives us all the money, jets, missiles, bombs and equipment to carry out these crimes so support us! We don't really give a fuck about anyone else's views anyway.'

 

[Belushi]

they can't even spell defence

They can for their audience.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Very competent propaganda posters.

Here are some more in the same vein.

 

[DrRingDing]

Thanks to those in Glasgow protesting today.

 

[likesfish]

What would you do as the hamas rocket fire is ineffective
Not launch airstrikes that kill more civillians

 

[mauvais]

This is even worse:

'Oh go on America. What would you do eh? Support us America, support us in our murderous endeavours, America. Afterall it's you who gives us all the money, jets, missiles, bombs and equipment to carry out these crimes so support us! We don't really give a fuck about anyone else's views anyway.'

At least it's accurate. Only a couple of these rockets are on target.

 

[Knotted]

A "wtf was that you just said?" moment in the Guardian yesterday.

Israel widened its air assault against the Gaza Strip's Hamas rulers on Saturday, hitting a mosque, Hamas-affiliated charities and an Islamic home for the disabled, as Palestinians said the death toll from the five-day offensive rose to 135.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/12/un-security-council-gaza-ceasefire-call

 

[TomUS]

Mr.Bishie

i wonder what the interplay's been in recent years about military ops on urban terrain between the idf and the us army.

Israel has been the teacher. They advised the American military on urban counter insurgency for use in Iraq. From a 2003 article......

In fighting insurgents in Iraq, the United States is drawing on some of Israel’s methods and experiences in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, including running checkpoints and tracking militants with drone aircraft, Israeli officials say.
Israeli and U.S. security experts have met repeatedly in recent months to discuss urban warfare and Israel’s lessons from its grueling three-year fight against Palestinian militants.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3702655/n...us-employs-israeli-tactics-iraq/#.U8JDaajKZFQ