belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Quite, the only thing he's got 'wrong' in this thread has been not to agree that this assault amounts to a genocide, which hardly amounts to him being a zionist apologist. Bloody stupid
Gaza under attack yet again.
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Personally I'm starting to come round to the idea but I also think it has its limitations and it does seem a bit odd to boycott Israel but not, for example, ourselves or the USA.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Effectiveness is the main thing, if we could boycott ourselves, on a mass scale, then maybe that would be a good idea. But we can't. There were worse places than Chile even after the coup, and there were even worse places than South Africa, but boycotts were valuable there.
Plus, the main workers organisations in Israel are calling for boycotts, which isn't the case for us or the US, or even anywhere else I can think of, offhand.
Plumdaff
joy in people
This for me is a huge, vital point.
My support for BDS is not 100% either, I'd be wary of someone who hadn't considered the problems. But I also see it as an imperfect way of applying pressure where I think it's likely to be most noticed - financially and on the western companies who financially support Israel.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
The state of Israel has prior form for stripping dissenters of their Israeli nationality.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
So would I, to be fair.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Which word you use is academic, given that, as tunnels, any "neutralisation" isn't permanent.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Ok, I've avoided posting on this thread until today whilst I tried to figure out where the middle ground is. But there isn't any really is there? What Israel is doing is indefensible. I've had a couple of private conversations with a couple of you so as not to create a shitfest on the thread, but I'm off the fence.
However, what would be a reasonable response from Israel to having fucktons of, so far non lethal, rockets being lobbed at them?
Obviously there are potential long term solutions (withdraw to 67 lines ... blah blah ... etc) but what about the short term?
Let the rockets come on?
What can they do that doesn't involve killing hundreds of kids?
Forgive me if this has been discussed elsewhere but I'm not trawling 100 odd pages.
However, what would be a reasonable response from Israel to having fucktons of, so far non lethal, rockets being lobbed at them?
Obviously there are potential long term solutions (withdraw to 67 lines ... blah blah ... etc) but what about the short term?
Let the rockets come on?
What can they do that doesn't involve killing hundreds of kids?
Forgive me if this has been discussed elsewhere but I'm not trawling 100 odd pages.
Stop besieging the Palestinians in Ghazza. Simple.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
And in Gaza it isn't just a lack of clean water and sewerage, it's a lack of medicines, a lack of adequate nutrition, and a lack of hope.
It's nice to see SpackleFrog saying that others lack clean water too, although perhaps SpackleFrog hasn't considered that others may not have the same political and military pressures on them as the Gazans.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Is it that simple?
Will doing that end the violence or just give militants the opportunity to militarise the place and use it as a base for attacks on Israel?
hipipol
Peckham Wry
The real difficulty for any boycott is that very many of the big Israeli firms are in the business of services, sub-systems etc which are subcontracted out to them by bigger firms or imbedded in other peoples software/systems
Teva pharma is one of the obvious big players in the UK but most of their sales seem to be to the NHS - if you're prescribed it how easy would it be swap out for another supplier?
A minefield that needs a fair bit more digging
Teva pharma is one of the obvious big players in the UK but most of their sales seem to be to the NHS - if you're prescribed it how easy would it be swap out for another supplier?
A minefield that needs a fair bit more digging
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
How come she is only Jewish when she can use it to grandstand? Has she even mentioned the fact that she is Jewish before? Seems like another lie to make her part of the story.
She's Jewish insofar as she has a Jewish parent or grandparent (I forget which).
I did laugh a bit reading her article last week when she mentioned Kaddish. I bet she couldn't recite the mourning prayer, unless she looked it up! Why do I bet that? Because a majority of Jews can't, beyond the first few lines, and sometimes only in their own tongue, not Hebrew!
Yes.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
"@OccPalGaza
236,374 displaced people in 86 UN shelters. That isn't counting all the people displaced and not in shelters but on streets etc."
"@OccPalGaza
Israeli occupation forces have reportedly told journos to stay inside their hotels tonight due to possible close proximity bombing."
@OccPalGaza
Ministry of health: 1437 murdered and 8300 injured in Israeli attacks on Gaza. Today alone 79 murdered! 10.35pm"
Relieved to see OccPal is still alive, after a worrying lull in tweeting.
236,374 displaced people in 86 UN shelters. That isn't counting all the people displaced and not in shelters but on streets etc."
"@OccPalGaza
Israeli occupation forces have reportedly told journos to stay inside their hotels tonight due to possible close proximity bombing."
@OccPalGaza
Ministry of health: 1437 murdered and 8300 injured in Israeli attacks on Gaza. Today alone 79 murdered! 10.35pm"
Relieved to see OccPal is still alive, after a worrying lull in tweeting.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
What? I don't get it.
Nowhere in the UK, but plenty of slum communities in Latin America, Africa and Asia. That's basically the goal right? To reduce Gazans to that state?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
They're obsessed with game-playing every possible twist and turn of any putative conflict, including ones they've already fought. It keeps the generals busy!
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yes, what?
Don't be a dick. I haven't come across you before so don't know if you're a cunt or not, but say what you mean and make a point or fuck off.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/1...-suspension-of-unrwa-spokesman-chris-gunness/
Ron Prosor is a fucking scumbag.
Ron Prosor is a fucking scumbag.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You've just said that you've been here 5 minutes and read nothing. So, you read up and respect other contributors or fuck off you arrogant entitled shit.
hipipol
Peckham Wry
That would only be an intermediate stage, the idea being to make life so bad than somehow they would then chose to go away
Cant see where to
teqniq
DisMembered
Oh it's real then is it? Someone was tweeting this last night but with no link.http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/1...-suspension-of-unrwa-spokesman-chris-gunness/
Ron Prosor is a fucking scumbag.
In which case yes x2
I shall fuck off then.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
No you shall not. The other idiot will grow up and develop respect.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
No you won't mate.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fucking murderers.
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