The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I would have guessed around 2k tbh . I wonder where that puts them say compared to SWP, RCP ie what was Socialist Appeal , Socialist Party , Communist Party and AWL ?
Galloway's Workers' Party of Britain
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Lurdan
old wave
The source is their Annual Report for 2023 - online here (PDF)
Interestingly they seem to have shed a lot of members between 2022 and 2023.
Would this be a result of the CPGB-ML leaving? According to the CPGB-ML website:
Build the Workers Party of Britain - The Communists
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
The interview, if anything, is favourable to GG. Bastani fails desperately to push back. He doesn't even try, even when what is being said is grotesquely ignorant. He doesn't even push back against GG's obvious climate denlialism.
I also watched the Not The Andrew Marr Show youtube interview with GG which aired before the full interview, claiming that it was a stich up. GG's responses were further evidence of his charlatantry. He isn't asked about his odious views but instead plays the victim claiming the Novara trailer was denuded of context because of the comment about gender, which has nothing to do with thinking gay people aren't normal. So ofc he has to frame Novara as part of the 'establishment'. Clearly nonsense since Novara haven't hidden their interview, it's freely available to watch. Pity the NATMS cranks didn't watch it
I also watched the Not The Andrew Marr Show youtube interview with GG which aired before the full interview, claiming that it was a stich up. GG's responses were further evidence of his charlatantry. He isn't asked about his odious views but instead plays the victim claiming the Novara trailer was denuded of context because of the comment about gender, which has nothing to do with thinking gay people aren't normal. So ofc he has to frame Novara as part of the 'establishment'. Clearly nonsense since Novara haven't hidden their interview, it's freely available to watch. Pity the NATMS cranks didn't watch it
Jeremiah18.17
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Saw from the May Day demos that they seem to have picked up quite a few new members with all the publicity in the last few weeks, including, by the looks of it, our local anti-vax TERF and friends.
Their regional organiser in these parts seems to be a capable ex-Labour member, given to dressing for demos in suits and open necked shirts… Quite a few carrying their (vaguely fash looking) red, white and blue roundel flags.
Their regional organiser in these parts seems to be a capable ex-Labour member, given to dressing for demos in suits and open necked shirts… Quite a few carrying their (vaguely fash looking) red, white and blue roundel flags.
hitmouse
entreprenulsoip critical thinking
Once again I must express my fraternal gratitude to Comrade Elon Musk for making twitter impossible to view without an account, and so greatly reducing the chances of me wasting my time by paying attention to this shit.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I listened to whole Bastani interview on Novara media. As Workers party have tried to do a hatchet job on Bastani thought Id listen to whole thing.
Novara media also have put up short explanation video now Bastani has been personally attacked.
Fair play to Novara media they do not come across in the the way the Workers party website does,
The interview as Karl Masks says allows Galloway to go on with very little push back.
I think purpose of interview like this ( and there are others with different people on the Novara media YouTube ) is not to have adversarial interview but a long interview where a rounded picture can be taken.
I actually like this. I do go to Novara YouTube channel to look them up.
Its a refreshing change from mainstream media.
As Bastani has said elsewhere Galloway is one of those people who could have gone far.
Considering the interview it shows why Galloway hasn't got far. This is sympathetic interview. Allowing Galloway to put his better side across. He did oppose Iraq war. Let it not be forgotten.
He comes across as very old Labour on social values and pro Brexit. Plus always pro Palestinian.
On social values he is not out of place with old Labour. On Palestine he is.
Its forgotten that Labour party were quite socially conservative.
This comes across when Corbyn is discussed. Clearly whilst both are attacked by Labour party they are very different.
He says this himself. This is one of the most interesting bits of the interview.
Apart from Palestine he has no affinity with the kind of new labour left that was prevalent in London.
Another thing some of his views are not going to out of place with some Labour voters.
What I find unpleasant about Galloway is the attack dog side of it. He got a great long interview with Bastani. Who has been sympathetic then tries to discredit him. Saying he is part of establishment. Which is bollox really.
Novara media also have put up short explanation video now Bastani has been personally attacked.
Fair play to Novara media they do not come across in the the way the Workers party website does,
The interview as Karl Masks says allows Galloway to go on with very little push back.
I think purpose of interview like this ( and there are others with different people on the Novara media YouTube ) is not to have adversarial interview but a long interview where a rounded picture can be taken.
I actually like this. I do go to Novara YouTube channel to look them up.
Its a refreshing change from mainstream media.
As Bastani has said elsewhere Galloway is one of those people who could have gone far.
Considering the interview it shows why Galloway hasn't got far. This is sympathetic interview. Allowing Galloway to put his better side across. He did oppose Iraq war. Let it not be forgotten.
He comes across as very old Labour on social values and pro Brexit. Plus always pro Palestinian.
On social values he is not out of place with old Labour. On Palestine he is.
Its forgotten that Labour party were quite socially conservative.
This comes across when Corbyn is discussed. Clearly whilst both are attacked by Labour party they are very different.
He says this himself. This is one of the most interesting bits of the interview.
Apart from Palestine he has no affinity with the kind of new labour left that was prevalent in London.
Another thing some of his views are not going to out of place with some Labour voters.
What I find unpleasant about Galloway is the attack dog side of it. He got a great long interview with Bastani. Who has been sympathetic then tries to discredit him. Saying he is part of establishment. Which is bollox really.
What's his logic for being a climate change denier?
And yes, I know a lot of Old Labour types hated LGBT people and still do but like it or not, we are a part of society as well and we don't all spend our every waking moment having sex parties or whatever weird shit Galloway thinks we get up to. Some of us do actually have jobs. I could work 12 hours in a factory and it wouldn't make me straight.
And yes, I know a lot of Old Labour types hated LGBT people and still do but like it or not, we are a part of society as well and we don't all spend our every waking moment having sex parties or whatever weird shit Galloway thinks we get up to. Some of us do actually have jobs. I could work 12 hours in a factory and it wouldn't make me straight.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
There's a strong market for it.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I'm not even convinced it is simply him being 'old labour' as you put it. I think he calibrates his views to match the mood. He's certainly canny. He's no fool. He's nasty and vile
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
Panesar has withdrawn now LOL
England cricketer Monty Panesar quits George Galloway's party
Monty Panesar was among dozens of MP candidates being lined up by the Workers Party of Britain.
www.bbc.co.uk
Bingoman
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But is he still standing for parliament?Panesar has withdrawn now LOL
England cricketer Monty Panesar quits George Galloway's party
Monty Panesar was among dozens of MP candidates being lined up by the Workers Party of Britain.www.bbc.co.uk
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
I see according to that article that Craig Murray has left the Salmond vanity vehicle, Alba, to join the Galloway vanity vehicle. Wonder what his stance on Scottish independence is now. (Galloway is against. Or he was at last stock take).Panesar has withdrawn now LOL
England cricketer Monty Panesar quits George Galloway's party
Monty Panesar was among dozens of MP candidates being lined up by the Workers Party of Britain.www.bbc.co.uk
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Brought on for one quick pre-tea over; got tonked and back to third man
ska invita
back on the other side
He also said in the Novara interview that net zero is a (paraphrase) power grab new world order great reset move from the deep state <that's what the conspiracy cranks have it down as and he was echoing that. He didnt actually say that but he alluded to it
Fozzie Bear
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He did say he was against net zero but I don’t recall him saying he didn’t believe in climate change.
My recollection was something about ordinary people paying for it.
My recollection was something about ordinary people paying for it.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
He's against the “apocalyptic Green hysteria that floods our media”, will “keep an open mind” about the reality of climate change and says there is “no need to be rushed” into a green economy.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
It diminishes the power of certain states that he has an affinity for / has received paid employment from.
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
Let's hope not. He didn't seem to have the first idea about really basic stuff like 'what is NATO' and by his own admission didn't seem to know much on anything. It was kind of sad to listen to his interview on Times Radio - it's reflected worse on Galloway choosing someone so blatantly clueless to champion his cause. Panesar has at done the right thing.
Which way is the wind blowing today? Cos...that way.
Well let's see if independence ever happens/looks like it's going to.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
He has had a long career in spin already
ska invita
back on the other side
Ive found the transcript (my comments in brackets):
".... I didn't recall saying anything about climate change in that (2004?) book (distancing himself from previously making "woke comments" about caring about climate change) but if I did I've changed my mind about that , I honestly believe that Net Zero is a very very expensive and dangerous destructive hoax that will beggar the mass of the British public in the interests of others who don't have our best interests at heart"
<<<having spoken to net zero conspiracists I am sure this refers to what i said it does earlier
at one point he also says "I aint no liberal bruv" which was quite a funny line tbh if a bit bizarre
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Jeremiah18.17
Well-Known Member
Galloway was always fairly socially right wing, but having spent the last five years or so in the media/social media company of alt-rightists, Putinbots and conspiraloons (unfortunately he has this “COVID era derangement” in common with rather too many ex-leftists for comfort) he appears to have gone fully native…
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
TWP's 10 point plan makes no mention of climate change at all. Clearly then it isn't a priority. Meanwhile scientists are screaming that we are rocketing past the temperature limits
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Galloway isn't someone I'd want to vote for. It was revealing when he talked about differences between him and Corbyn
The other person who calibrates his views is Starmer. Ten pledges to get elected leader then ditches them. That was totally cynical move.
From the interview - Bastani asked him about book he wrote while back calling for a rainbow alliance etc. Can't remember if he answered that . So yes I think there is evidence to suggest he calibrates his views to match the mood.
Back then it was more of the cuddly left stuff now he's working on the anti establishment anti woke as ska invita has looked up
The revealing difference between him and Corbyn is that imo Corbyn is Corbyn. What you see on the tin is what you get. Like him or loathe him His criticism of Corbyn was that he couldn't play the politics game.
Galloway is a populist honing his persona to change depending on the mood.
When Galloway spoke about Corbyn ( and he wasn't nasty about him) I thought yes well that's why I'd vote for Corbyn and not you.
Which as Galloway rightly pointed out was Corbyn weakness. And why he was destroyed.
Galloway and politician like Starmer are symptoms of everything that puts people off politics. One way or another
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
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