Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job

[bigfish]

"So, Larry, if Shayler is not "credible", how come he got thrown into prison by the British government for blowing the whistle on British intels links with Al-Qaeda,"

Where did he do that then? I thought you were of the opinion that AQ never actually existed anyway?

I'm of the opinion that Al-Qaeda is a US intel construct. Bin Laden, after all, is a known CIA asset. In the radio interview (which you obviously haven't listened to) Shayler tells how the person who contacted MI6 by walking into the British embassy in Tripoli offering his services for a fee, was in fact a Libyan military intelligence officer who claimed to be an associate of Osama Bin Laden. According to Shayler, the British government paid this guy "tens of thousands of pounds" to organize Gadhafi's assassination.

MI6 Plot to assassinate Colonel Gaddafi

Radio interview

 

[butchersapron]

And connect this to your claim tha he was jailed for "blowing the whistle on British intels links with Al-Qaeda" - which you don't even think exists.

Simply tying this up with 'middle east stuff' doesn't really work.

 

[Pickman's model]

bigfish

what d'you mean by 'anarkiddyism'?

 

[bigfish]

Who are my proxies btw BF? Can you 'name names'?

Will you please tell the forum what your 9/11 theory is?

Don't tell me, "it was Al-Qaeda wot done it, honest guv". Is that about it?

 

[butchersapron]

Will you please tell the forum what your 9/11 theory is?

Don't tell me, "it was Al-Qaeda wot done it, honest guv". Is that about it?

Again, called on his posts he crumples into a not very convincing heap. You can still answer it though....there's time yet...

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Will you please tell the forum what your 9/11 theory is?

Don't tell me, "it was Al-Qaeda wot done it, honest guv". Is that about it?

Sounds good to me. Better than

"it was George W Bush that done it, honest gov, i saw the missile pods"

 

[bigfish]

4) Re Al Qaeda, I have merely stated the view (developed by for example Jason Burke in some detail) that the term 'Al Qaeda' is shorthand for an ideology and loose-knit confederation of militants, not a coherent pyramidal structure as such.

You mean that regular issue spud Gonad journo Jason Burke?

Hilarious!

When you say you're left/Green, does that mean you read the Gonad every day and the Obscurer on a Sunday?

 

[butchersapron]

Watch out, he's started saying spud - thread over....

 

[bigfish]

And connect this to your claim tha he was jailed for "blowing the whistle on British intels links with Al-Qaeda" - which you don't even think exists.

Simply tying this up with 'middle east stuff' doesn't really work.

How would we know what works with you butch when your own 911 theory is such a closely guarded secret. Have you ever considered debating in an honest and open manner, i.e., by making your own position perfectly clear to the forum?

No?

 

[butchersapron]

Two claims. Both semi-supported by himself even though he knows he has nothing. (Sound familiar).


Support your claims or leave really. It's that simple.

 

[bigfish]

Watch out, he's started saying spud - thread over....

Oh, I see your a big fan of this pathetic little fleet street scribbler too. Interesting.

 

[butchersapron]

Yeah, i love him.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

You mean that regular issue spud Gonad journo Jason Burke?

Hilarious!

When you say you're left/Green, does that mean you read the Gonad every day and the Obscurer on a Sunday?

If you think I'm a Guardian reader, you're even more stupid than you appear--you clearly know f... all about me, my views, or ideas.

Rather than using stupid and implicitly racist terms like Spud for somebody with an Irish sounding name, why don't you take your kite, load it with conspiracy leaflets, and fly it into some sand-castle tower somewhere.

I realise you like Shayler because he's giving credibility to your conspiracy theories. The idea of critically scrutinising him wouldn't occur to you would it? Get a life.

 

[bigfish]

And connect this to your claim tha he was jailed for "blowing the whistle on British intels links with Al-Qaeda" - which you don't even think exists.

Simply tying this up with 'middle east stuff' doesn't really work.

What the fuck are you blathering on about here butch?

Can anyone out there translate sub-Durrutian?

 

[bigfish]

Two claims. Both semi-supported by himself even though he knows he has nothing. (Sound familiar).


Support your claims or leave really. It's that simple.

Support your claims butch or leave yourself.

Here, let me help you get started: Once upon a time a bloke in a cave decided to turn over a state of the art super power......


Off you go.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Support your claims butch or leave yourself.

Here, let me help you get started: Once upon a time a bloke in a cave decided to turn over a state of the art super power......


Off you go.

And the USS Cole was a hideous accident involving some students and an error is packing guidelines?

 

[bigfish]

If you think I'm a Guardian reader, you're even more stupid than you appear--you clearly know f... all about me, my views, or ideas.

Rather than using stupid and implicitly racist terms like Spud for somebody with an Irish sounding name, why don't you take your kite, load it with conspiracy leaflets, and fly it into some sand-castle tower somewhere.

I realise you like Shayler because he's giving credibility to your conspiracy theories. The idea of critically scrutinising him wouldn't occur to you would it? Get a life.

What about Burke, have you "critically scrutinized him"? No?

And yes, you're right, I don't know anything about you, your views or your ideas. But straight away, I can see that you are fully paid up member of the "it was Al-Qaeda wot done it, honest guv faction, i.e., you give "left/Green" support to the official fairy story, just like butch.

By the way, the term spud and a number of its variants, has been in popular use on these boards for a long time. But just to clarify matters for you, the term is not used in a racially derogatory way to insult people with Irish sounding names by me or anyone else. Nice try at tagging me as a racist though all the same.

 

[steeplejack]

By the way, the term spud and a number of its variants, has been in popular use on these boards for a long time.

has it?



you seem to be mistaking your use of it with 'popular' usage.

nice to see you're still as deeply unpleasant and hate filled as always. Why d'you bother on here anymore if you loathe us 'US-CIA-FoxNews propaganda' swallowing types so much?

 

[butchersapron]

Two claims. Still nothing...

 

[Loki]

has it?



you seem to be mistaking your use of it with 'popular' usage.

Much as it pains me to admit bigfish might have a point, the word "fuckspud" is popular on these boards. I might have even used it myself, although certainly not as a derogatory term for the Irish.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

What about Burke, have you "critically scrutinized him"? No?

And yes, you're right, I don't know anything about you, your views or your ideas. But straight away, I can see that you are fully paid up member of the "it was Al-Qaeda wot done it, honest guv faction, i.e., you give "left/Green" support to the official fairy story, just like butch.

By the way, the term spud and a number of its variants, has been in popular use on these boards for a long time. But just to clarify matters for you, the term is not used in a racially derogatory way to insult people with Irish sounding names by me or anyone else. Nice try at tagging me as a racist though all the same.

Listen, for I will not repeat myself. I am not in the business of giving 'support' to any official fairy story--if you weren't such a know-nothing you'd know that at least.

My disagreement with the term 'spud' being used in relation to somebody with an Irish-sounding name I stand by. Perhaps you should research the origins of my surname. But research is clearly a word 8 letters too long for you.

Personally, I prefer to analyse/critique secret state operations that don't get the glare of media publicity, like the Admiral Duncan nail-bombing for example. Bit too empirical for you though, wouldn't it be??

 

[bigfish]

Much as it pains me to admit bigfish might have a point, the word "fuckspud" is popular on these boards. I might have even used it myself, although certainly not as a derogatory term for the Irish.

Thanks Loki.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Listen, for I will not repeat myself. I am not in the business of giving 'support' to any official fairy story--if you weren't such a know-nothing you'd know that at least.

My disagreement with the term 'spud' being used in relation to somebody with an Irish-sounding name I stand by. Perhaps you should research the origins of my surname. But research is clearly a word 8 letters too long for you.

Personally, I prefer to analyse/critique secret state operations that don't get the glare of media publicity, like the Admiral Duncan nail-bombing for example. Bit too empirical for you though, wouldn't it be??

The soho nail bombings were a secret state operation? Now that's news to me, is there anything to support this assertion that David Copeland was working at the behest of the government?

 

[Loki]

Thanks Loki.

If you really want to thank me you could start by not posting up endless threads about less than credulous people lifted from bonkers websites that believe in chemtrails, remote control Boeings and pod missiles. Cheers.

 

[bigfish]

Listen, for I will not repeat myself. I am not in the business of giving 'support' to any official fairy story--if you weren't such a know-nothing you'd know that at least.

My disagreement with the term 'spud' being used in relation to somebody with an Irish-sounding name I stand by. Perhaps you should research the origins of my surname. But research is clearly a word 8 letters too long for you.

Personally, I prefer to analyse/critique secret state operations that don't get the glare of media publicity, like the Admiral Duncan nail-bombing for example. Bit too empirical for you though, wouldn't it be??

Yes, sure, but what about Burke, have you "critically scrutinized him"? No?

 

[Lock&Light]

Thank God we can presently expect the editor to deal with this thread as he would have done sooner had he returned earlier from Glastonbury.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

The soho nail bombings were a secret state operation? Now that's news to me, is there anything to support this assertion that David Copeland was working at the behest of the government?

Oh my oh my--why don't you for a start look at the Outrage web-site, for the piece entitled the Admiral Duncan bombing. I have extensively written about this since the year 2000 in issues 3 5 & 6 of Notes From the Borderland which I have no intention of repeating--why not do a search, there was a thread on here about it.

I love the way that straight off you accuse me of making a claim 'David Copeland was working at the behest of the government' I have never made, then ask me to 'support' it. Priceless!

 

[steeplejack]

Much as it pains me to admit bigfish might have a point, the word "fuckspud" is popular on these boards. I might have even used it myself, although certainly not as a derogatory term for the Irish.

Hmmn I disagree...bigfish's 'Spud' 'Spuddocks' 'Spudchester United' 'Spudcheese' varieties are all his own and not much to do with 'fuckspud'.

But hey ho.

 

[flimsier]

Thank God we can presently expect the editor to deal with this thread as he would have done sooner had he returned earlier from Glastonbury.

 

[butchersapron]

Much as it pains me to admit bigfish might have a point, the word "fuckspud" is popular on these boards. I might have even used it myself, although certainly not as a derogatory term for the Irish.

That's a different word loki. As the letters atre trying to point out.