Face masks

[8ball]

am curious whether witnesses will be allowed to wear them for questioning/cross examination - given that facial expressions are generally considered so important to judge veracity.

They sometimes use CCTV for this sort of thing, don't they?

 

[Orang Utan]

why aren't people just sticking them in the washing machine like you would with any other item of clothing?

 

[8ball]

why aren't people just sticking them in the washing machine like you would with any other item of clothing?

And the high heat setting for the dryer, obviously (unless getting plenty of sunlight).
And bleach if handwashing.

As any fule kno.

 

[wayward bob]

They sometimes use CCTV for this sort of thing, don't they?

i guess they might have a "witness stand" booth where people sit on their own (rather than next to their lawyers). but reactions etc in the courtroom are sometimes part of what jurors are directed to consider. again, curious what the official line is on this kind of thing...

 

[Orang Utan]

And the high heat setting for the dryer, obviously.
And bleach if handwashing.

As any fule kno.

washing machine is fine and not everyone has a dryer. bleach is a no no in my household unless you're cleaning the toilet.

Ditch the gloves, buy a litter-picker, but don’t carshare! How to be eco-friendly in a pandemic

Can you wash your disposable mask at 20C – and should we still be going for reusable coffee cups? Experts answer your environmental dilemmas

www.theguardian.com

Do you need to wash everything – masks included – at high temperatures?
It is important to wash masks after each use, says Maitreyi Shivkumar, a virologist and lecturer in molecular biology at De Montfort University Leicester. But, she says, “there’s no concrete evidence” on how to do the laundry. NHS guidelines on the home-washing of work uniforms advises washing with detergent at 60C (140F). For the public, “the likelihood of you coming into contact with really high amounts of virus is relatively low. It’s unlikely you’ll need to use a high temperature.”

Could you wash with temperatures as low as 20C to save energy? “I don’t really see an issue with using lower temperatures,” she says, adding that it’s the detergent that’s important and that “this is for everyday normal use where you know the likelihood of someone having Covid is low”. If you or someone in your household is suspected of having the virus, then their clothes, sheets and towels should be washed on the hottest setting. If not, says Edge, “washing masks in the same load [as your normal laundry] reduces the environmental impact”.

 

[8ball]

i guess they might have a "witness stand" booth where people sit on their own (rather than next to their lawyers). but reactions etc in the courtroom are sometimes part of what jurors are directed to consider. again, curious what the official line is on this kind of thing...

Offical line as of the most recent thing I can find (and links older than that show confusion reigned) is that witnesses can be asked by a judge to remove their face mask if 2-metre distancing is observed.

 

[8ball]

washing machine is fine and not everyone has a dryer. bleach is a no no in my household unless you're cleaning the toilet.

Ditch the gloves, buy a litter-picker, but don’t carshare! How to be eco-friendly in a pandemic

Can you wash your disposable mask at 20C – and should we still be going for reusable coffee cups? Experts answer your environmental dilemmas

www.theguardian.com

Do you need to wash everything – masks included – at high temperatures?
It is important to wash masks after each use, says Maitreyi Shivkumar, a virologist and lecturer in molecular biology at De Montfort University Leicester. But, she says, “there’s no concrete evidence” on how to do the laundry. NHS guidelines on the home-washing of work uniforms advises washing with detergent at 60C (140F). For the public, “the likelihood of you coming into contact with really high amounts of virus is relatively low. It’s unlikely you’ll need to use a high temperature.”

Could you wash with temperatures as low as 20C to save energy? “I don’t really see an issue with using lower temperatures,” she says, adding that it’s the detergent that’s important and that “this is for everyday normal use where you know the likelihood of someone having Covid is low”. If you or someone in your household is suspected of having the virus, then their clothes, sheets and towels should be washed on the hottest setting. If not, says Edge, “washing masks in the same load [as your normal laundry] reduces the environmental impact”.

Fine, choose De Montford Uni over the CDC if you want.

 

[Orang Utan]

Fine, choose De Montford Uni over the CDC if you want.

CDC is of course more cautious but we also have to be practical

 

[frogwoman]

The way i see it is i am not a doctor therefore I don't need to wash the face masks to the same standards I would if I was coming in contact with covid every day. However the elastic goes if you repeatedly wash them at high temperatures. I don't wear them when damp because of the pneumonia risk so usually hand wash them or stick them in the machine and then leave to dry.

 

[ddraig]

why aren't people just sticking them in the washing machine like you would with any other item of clothing?

because don't use it everyday or even once a week sometimes

 

[Orang Utan]

because don't use it everyday or even once a week sometimes

you should be changing them every day, just like your pants!

 

[ddraig]

you should be changing them every day, just like your pants!

I am (don't change pants everyday tho!)
meant don't use washing machine everyday

 

[wayward bob]

i've only had one up til now - gets used for <10 mins about once a week. under those terms i would happily wear the same pants for a month now i made another for rotational purposes

 

[Orang Utan]

I am (don't change pants everyday tho!)
meant don't use washing machine everyday

neither do i! just wash them with the regular washing - about once a week

 

[8ball]

neither do i! just wash them with the regular washing - about once a week

Can anyone else hear a distant scythe being sharpened?

 

[Orang Utan]

Can anyone else hear a distant scythe being sharpened?

what the fuck are you on about now? you're really pissing me off

 

[frogwoman]

I've often worn the same pair of pants more than once or washed it in the sink. It's not ideal but I'm hardly going to get anything nasty if it's just the odd day here and there rather than every day.

 

[Teaboy]

what the fuck are you on about now? you're really pissing me off

Honestly, this site is massively better with that unfunny prick on ignore. Such a massive and undeserved ego. A great example of certain type of man of a certain age.

 

[Orang Utan]

Honestly, this site is massively better with that unfunny prick on ignore. Such a massive and undeserved ego. A great example of certain type of man of a certain age.

He’s very slippery. Never says what he means. Just makes elliptical ‘jokes’ without explaining himself

 

[existentialist]

You're letting bacteria grow on a warm, moist medium, then re-inhaling them?

Bacteria's fine - it's the virus that is the primary concern here...

 

[8ball]

Bacteria's fine - it's the virus that is the primary concern here...

E.coli and all manner of bacteria round my manor. Not to mention occasional flare-ups of norovirus in the area etc.
Just one virus where you are? Luxury...

 

[Orang Utan]

E.coli and all manner of bacteria round my manor. Not to mention occasional flare-ups of norovirus in the area etc.
Just one virus where you are? Luxury...

We’re talking about Covid though. That’s why we’re masking up

 

[8ball]

We’re talking about Covid though. That’s why we’re masking up

I thought you mostly just liked a jaunty mask.
Nothing so wrong in that, I guess.

 

[chilango]

It's my germs that my mask stops and collects anyway...right?

 

[Orang Utan]

I thought you mostly just liked a jaunty mask.
Nothing so wrong in that, I guess.

No, I don’t want to catch or spread Covid and I work with the public, so masking up is essential. You’re weird

 

[8ball]

It's my germs that my mask stops and collects anyway...right?

I believe that's how the current version of the story goes - ie. it reduces the chance of asymptomatic or presymptomatic people infecting others.

This kind of made me wonder about those valve masks (which are not recommended) - if you were to turn the valves round so that you could freely breathe in and breathing out was restricted instead, would that cover most of the protective element and result in a more comfortable mask.

I think you'd need a new type of mask - I doubt the valves are reversible...

 

[frogwoman]

I think pneumonia and secondary infections are a thing you might want to avoid with the SARS-COV-2 virus to be honest. However hopefully nobody here is going to be wandering around in wet, dirty face masks that have been worn for days in a row ?!

Things like colds and flu are also prevented from spreading with masks tho.

 

[crossthebreeze]

Reusable masks (and anything else that could be contaminated and can't either be washed at 60 degrees or put in a tumble drier - cleaning cloths, work clothes I've worn for litter picking, work gloves, outer clothes I've worn on public transport etc) get soaked in disinfectant solution before the wash or get "nappy fresh" added to the wash. I seem to wear a mask at some point 6 days in a week though, sometimes for long periods (ie when doing certain work). If I've just worn a mask for a 10 minute shop where no-one got close to me, or to walk through someone's garage for garden access for work, I would wear it again later that day or even use another day though.

 

[existentialist]

E.coli and all manner of bacteria round my manor. Not to mention occasional flare-ups of norovirus in the area etc.
Just one virus where you are? Luxury...

And you've been wearing a mask to protect against all these bacteria since before Covid-19?

 

[platinumsage]

And you've been wearing a mask to protect against all these bacteria since before Covid-19?

They've been around for years: