DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
That picture caused loads of hysteria and jokes on social media last night.
Face masks
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Study comparing cloth masks and medical masks
Its probably quite obvious to anyone that has worn one that cloth masks are bit shit. First time I wore one I sneezed and instinctively raised my hand and a fair few droplets hit my hand. Of course some will be better than others.
Still, it probably does something and are better than nothing but clearly not suitable for health workers. For the rest of us though it means we're not buying up global stock of the N95 types (or whatever). I read recently that some hospitals in Florida had run out of them and they were having to use surgical masks.
Still, it probably does something and are better than nothing but clearly not suitable for health workers. For the rest of us though it means we're not buying up global stock of the N95 types (or whatever). I read recently that some hospitals in Florida had run out of them and they were having to use surgical masks.
I just signed the petition calling on Matt Hancock to come clean and release the PPE contracts. Will you add your name too?
Many hundreds of frontline healthcare workers have contracted Covid-19 and died. Details of the PPE fiasco that left them further exposed are now starting to emerge. The Government has committed £15 billion for buying PPE. Shockingly, three of the biggest beneficiaries so far are companies...
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Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
It all went horribly wrong at about 6am. It was about 1/3 of the way through, and the print came away from the bed, so I've had to start over.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Why wouldn't you?
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I had a tiny knock on the front door yesterday evening. Was a young woman from Estonia selling education books. Her mask was under her chin. I stayed a couple of feet into my porch as we chatted. It was nice to talk to someone I didn't expect - I haven't had a conversation in person with a stranger for months. She got close enough to show me a sample of a book and to hand me her card. I don't think we were 2m apart. I spoke to her for ten minutes. Now I'm paranoid about getting ill. It's frightening how this thing has made me scared of more stuff. Why didn't I wear a mask? Why didn't she? Does it matter, given where I am is nearly the lowest cases in the UK?
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
Even some Canadians have lost the plot over face masks - not sure why police ended up shooting him, but there seems to some crossover between mask refusers and gun owners.
Semi-automatic rifle found at scene of fatal police-involved shooting that started at Ontario grocery store
A semi-automatic rifle and a pistol were found at the scene of a fatal police-involved shooting in Haliburton County that started with a report about a man who was refusing to wear a mask at a grocery store, Ontario’s police watchdog said.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
8ball
1,200 lights
Good propaganda insertion there. I've also seen "low cognitive ability", "voting Brexit", and "being a racist" linked to it in the last couple of days.
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
I'm not so sure about the latter two - for every gammony type ranting about being muzzled, there's probably an anti-vaxxer woo type with their own objections.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
The problem is that it has now become part of US "culture war" symbolism, so lots of loud voices on the internet are saying you should wear one all the time or you're selfish and a nazi, or that you should never wear one or you're a pussy and a communist. Admittedly I'm fine with being a pussy and a communist but very little of it is about the actual masks any more.
8ball
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Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
I took delivery of eleven masks today (three varieties), and none of them fit me without trying to tear my ears off. I have a big head (looking forward to baldness 
) and I should have realised this when I ordered them. Tried a bit of temporary surgery with the stringy slack elastic from the disposable medical-style masks that I swiped from work and enjoyed some success. Not ideal, so I've got various elastic coming from Amazon, and superglue on standby. If I have to enforce this shit with the public, I need to look like a mean cunt, so naturally everything will be black or camouflague. Need to work on the Bane voice now...
) and I should have realised this when I ordered them. Tried a bit of temporary surgery with the stringy slack elastic from the disposable medical-style masks that I swiped from work and enjoyed some success. Not ideal, so I've got various elastic coming from Amazon, and superglue on standby. If I have to enforce this shit with the public, I need to look like a mean cunt, so naturally everything will be black or camouflague. Need to work on the Bane voice now...
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
2 elastic bands and cow hitch knots. Problem solvedI took delivery of eleven masks today (three varieties), and none of them fit me without trying to tear my ears off. I have a big head (looking forward to baldness
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
So I have supposedly now got an N95 mask. However, it has a "filter" I'm suspicious of. It basically looks like a fancy hole that opens and closes when I breathe. Is this what a filter is supposed to do?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
That sounds more like a valve than a filter.
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
Yes that makes sense. Do you know much about this type of thing? I've just realised if I breathe in the valve closes so my suspicion has subsided a bit. Way safer than the other masks I've been wearing anyway
I get the impression this is only coming to light/becoming public knowledge recently, but as I understand it now, the valve masks offer some protection to the user, but not to others. And the blanket mask use is of course designed to protect each other/others from ourselves, not the other way round.
Apparently, in some places these have been legislated against, and I hope that we will see the same here, or certainly some decent public information about it, because otherwise it could be counterproductive. (For some reason I am struggling to put in a link from my phone right now, but if you google masks with valves, you will see lots of recent articles on this issue; I linked to a couple of them on the "wearing masks in shops" thread).
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
But maybe not safer for others? I think we're not supposed to be wearing those kind of mask tbh, but someone here will know.
I'm a bit confused about mask designations now.
I got a reuseable one from a local shop. It feels like it has a filter pad in it. Been using that on trains. Sprayed it with hand sanitiser and leave it to hang by my coat. Otherwise just have some rectangular mask things in coat, which I've now been wearing in shops.
Basically does N95 refer to the valve type? FP3 = EU name for N95?
If I new what the first type I describe is called, I'd buy a couple more online. I have got a couple of disposable ones too but think I'll save them for emergencies / leave at my dad's next time I'm there.
I got a reuseable one from a local shop. It feels like it has a filter pad in it. Been using that on trains. Sprayed it with hand sanitiser and leave it to hang by my coat. Otherwise just have some rectangular mask things in coat, which I've now been wearing in shops.
Basically does N95 refer to the valve type? FP3 = EU name for N95?
If I new what the first type I describe is called, I'd buy a couple more online. I have got a couple of disposable ones too but think I'll save them for emergencies / leave at my dad's next time I'm there.
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
It definitely feels safer for others too because the airs only coming out the mask in one area rather than all over the place which is what the other masks seemed to be doing. Although tbh the only people I'm coming into extended contact with outside my house are people who are insisting all masks are abhorrent and I'm an asshole for wearing one so I'm less inclined to consider their safety
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I think only medical staff are supposed to be wearing them as they’re in short supply
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
N95 is an American classification, it means it filters 95% of particulates, the N means it's for use against Non-oil based contaminants. FFP3 is a European classification. It is linked to occupational exposure limits so it's quite complicated comparing them, but an FFP3 is generally better in terms of filtration than an N95.
For use in public against this virus though, it's not really relevant. Best to think of two categories. The first being face masks (e.g. surgical ones) and other face coverings (e.g. cotton) all of which can reduce expelled droplets and also prevent some droplets landing in your own mouth. The second are respirators such as N95 and FFP3 ones, which can really stop you inhaling any significant virus - however they must be worn and fitted properly to ensure no air can get in around the edges. This really needs some training and it also makes it quite hard to breath in them for extended periods of time. If they have a filter fitted this can make it easier to exhale but this allows your unfiltered breath to bypass the mask so won't protect other people. There's really no point in people buying these, best stick to the first category for shopping and public transport etc.
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
Yeah this is what I'm suspicious of, it seems way too easy to breathe in this one in comparison with the masks I had before. I suppose that could be because it fits and I know how to wear it but it doesn't add up really does it?
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muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
I edited the last post, deleted the edit but I'll add it as a separate post: I was being flippant about other people's safety earlier but there's a difference between making a judgement call about "my safety v someone else's" and "my comfort vs someone else's safety" which would be the case if there's a filter on this, right?
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