England v Germany - Tuesday 29/06 - 17:00

[Sprocket.]

Almost time for England’s 300th match at Wembley.

The England team - 367 caps

The German team - 635 caps

So Germans are old and worn out I assume.

 

[Rebelda]

It's David! ❤

 

[ruffneck23]

on a brighter note, im proper skint so the local offy let me tick 4 beers for the match. Oven heating up ready for pizza at kick off.

Although I too feel a little bit too nervous to to eat.

 

[JimW]

I should be nervous. Why am I not nervous?

I'm not either and it's not because I expect us to win either, think i just expect us not to make complete twats of ourselves

 

[Pickman's model]

on a brighter note, im proper skint so the local offy let me tick 4 beers for the match. Oven heating up ready for pizza at kick off.

Although I too feel a little bit too nervous to to eat.

Mind you don't put your pizza in the fridge and beers in the oven

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm not either and it's not because I expect us to win either, think i just expect us not to make complete twats of ourselves

Oh dear

 

[Badgers]

So Germans are old and worn out I assume.

Basically dead men walking

 

[Sprocket.]

It’s Ingerland at Wemberley. What can go wrong.

 

[JimW]

Oh dear

Obviously I wasn't including Grealish in that prediction

 

[Wilf]

I think Saka has played as a full back before. Maybe it's 4-4-2 with 3 right backs really.

I was (genuinely) about to post that it's great this fixture isn't attracting tedious wartime shite, for example the Mirror's headline at Euro 96. Then I saw this and couldn't stop my brain thinking 'Maginot Line'.

Can someone tell my brain to stfu?

 

[QueenOfGoths]

on a brighter note, im proper skint so the local offy let me tick 4 beers for the match. Oven heating up ready for pizza at kick off.

Although I too feel a little bit too nervous to to eat.

We're having "freezer tapas" consisting of various bits of curry and lentil chilli...... after the game!!

 

[belboid]

Aagghh, congestion, congestion. Now due home at 16.54 if we avoid the a57

 

[ruffneck23]

Mind you don't put your pizza in the fridge and beers in the oven

no need to worry about that, i put the oven on first now beers can be opened

 

[JimW]

no need to worry about that, i put the oven on first now beers can be opened

I have three beers left so am warming up with some kvass first. Decent stock of crisps though so don't worry on my account.

 

[Lord Camomile]

True. Should consider all the relevant games

So...

England: pld 3 w 2 d 1 l 0 including defeating one of the quarter-finalists and one beaten rd 16, draw with the team eliminated in the group

Germany: pld 3 w 1 d 1 l 1 including defeating one beaten rd 16 and defeat to one beaten rd 16, draw with the team eliminated in the group

Germany may well win, but the idea that it's England who've been lacklustre in this tournament just doesn't make sense.

Ok, but this is the thing, I don't think you can compare the two records so quantitatively like that. A group of Portugal, France and Hungary is just a fundamentally different challenge to a group of Scotland, Croatia, and Czech Republic.

Likewise, most teams can win individual games, but we can't assess the general merits of either team based on those single outcomes.

Form is a thing, absolutely, but let's not pretend that Czech Republic are better than Portugal or France because the former made it through to their QF and the latter didn't. That just doesn't make sense.

 

[Sprocket.]

Aagghh, congestion, congestion. Now due home at 16.54 if we avoid the a57

The parkway leaving Sheffield was the busiest and most jammed I’ve ever seen it at 3.

 

[JimW]

Chinese telly are reliving some of the pen shoot-outs, the fuckers.

 

[Lord Camomile]

That's tournament football. Greece didn't win the Euros in 2004 by being the 'best' team, they just came out better in each individual game.

Sure, but before each of those games, how many people were expecting them to win? People weren't expecting that in the final, by which time they'd already won a bunch of other matches.

England might win, Germany might win. My issue is with people comparing their respective records as if they've faced remotely the same challenges in terms of the teams they've played.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Sure, but before each of those games, how many people were expecting them to win? People weren't expecting that in the final, by which time they'd already won a bunch of other matches.

England might win, Germany might win. My issue is with people comparing their respective records as if they've faced remotely the same challenges in terms of the teams they've played.

England didn't have to face the mighty Hungary at home, it's true.

There's a bit of a common thread here, though, which is a certain tendency always to talk down England results. 1-0 against Croatia and the Czechs were excellent results. And the Czechs have been a surprise package. They beat Scotland with a good performance and beating the Dutch was no fluke. They're better than many of us expected them to be. (As were Hungary tbf, and Austria - there has been a revival of old Central European footballing powers.)

 

[Sprocket.]

Just gone in for my treatment and they’ve plonked me in front of the telly.

 

[belboid]

The parkway leaving Sheffield was the busiest and most jammed I’ve ever seen it at 3.

Fortunately my sister drives like a lunatic!

 

[QueenOfGoths]

The classes in the Small One's school are named after inspirational people. Next year there will be a Year 4 Rashford

 

[Numbers]

I just pray soccerball wins tonight.

 

[Chilli.s]

last nights efforts were so entertaining it's gonna be a hard act to follow. Perhaps they need bigger goals for when england play, just to liven it up a bit

 

[Sprocket.]

Nice to see a large contingent of German fans.

 

[Siouxsie]

I feel unusually nervous!

 

[Sprocket.]

Guy Mowbray commentating, York City’s finest.

 

[JimW]

Just seen Kane's expression, he's going to score a hattrick

 

[MrCurry]

Loving this! Come on England!!!

 

[Lord Camomile]

Wembley booing the national anthem again.

Stay classy.