England local election results thread

[JTG]

Plus I'll need somewhere out the wet when I'm very old.

Wetherspoons

 

[jakethesnake]

Well, i've just been to vote... TUSC - although i didn't even know they were standing here untill i saw the ballot paper. i was going to spoil my ballot because i couldn't bring myself to vote labour any more. Ya gotta love democracy.

 

[JimW]

Wetherspoons

On my currently projected pension of zero pounds, free places like the library will have to feature in the rotation at some point.

 

[William of Walworth]

That's another reason spoiling as politics is a terrible idea. It's a built-in split in the working class and involves those "conscious" ballot spoilers feeling superior and more "political" than the poor lumpen apathetic non turning up masses, who's choice is seen as being somehow outside politics.

Both sets of my grandparents (railways one side, building trade the other, and neither of them were managers!) had that view. They were all self educated socialists who didn't have much time for ignorance. Do something, don't just idly not bother, was their attitude and not just to elections. They were very TU active too and got right fucked off by fellow workers who .... erm ... didn't think stuff through too well

But in those days (1930s), voting Labour and being active in a mainstream TU was OK. Unlike nowamedays

 

[goldenecitrone]

On my currently projected pension of zero pounds, free places like the library will have to feature in the rotation at some point.

You'll be lucky. Amazon will have bought up all the library buildings and converted them into fully automated book warehouses.

 

[Sprocket.]

There is a rumour that one polling station in the Doncaster Borough has only had eleven voters in up to 9 o'clock!!!

 

[DotCommunist]

its sad that there will be no cgi landscapes and all night coverage of the count as it rolls in.

 

[Pickman's model]

its sad that there will be no cgi landscapes and all night coverage of the count as it rolls in.

victims of the cuts

 

[Pickman's model]

Plus I'll need somewhere out the wet when I'm very old.

bus shelter

 

[muscovyduck]

That's another reason spoiling as politics is a terrible idea. It's a built-in split in the working class and involves those "conscious" ballot spoilers feeling superior and more "political" than the poor lumpen apathetic non turning up masses, who's choice is seen as being somehow outside politics.

To be fair I don't actually give a shit, it's just an interesting, challenging debate I've never had before. It also works the other way around - you get those people who decide everyone who votes is a 'sheeple' and we all know anyone who uses the word sheeple is a dick.

what's a ballet paper?

Fuck off.

 

[andysays]

Lots of useful professions can also be boring

Boredom is always counter-revolutionary

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

First hints coming through from political hacks on Twitter.

From @patrickwintour of the Guardian:

"Labour in South Shields says its vote share in mid-40s, UKIP reach 30 %, Tories fall from 21 % in 2010 to single figs. Libs obliterated."

 

[Pickman's model]

First hints coming through from political hacks on Twitter.

From @patrickwintour of the Guardian:

"Labour in South Shields says its vote share in mid-40s, UKIP reach 30 %, Tories fall from 21 % in 2010 to single figs. Libs obliterated."

good news about the lib dem vote

 

[Pickman's model]

Boredom is always counter-revolutionary

if that's the case why are so many marxist writings so fucking dull?

 

[elbows]

victims of the cuts

And a large number of results arent even being counted till Friday. I hate this trend, pseudo-democracy should not be restricted to normal working hours.

 

[Quartz]

You think? The Mayor of London was elected of 17.5% of the eligible voters, yet he still feels perfectly comfortable telling the trade unions that their votes to strike aren't valid unless they get 50% of the eligible voters.

That's a big problem with FPTP. I wish we had Approval Voting instead.

 

[butchersapron]

That's a big problem with FPTP. I wish we had Approval Voting instead.

That wouldn't change turnout. It would just reconfigure so that a low-turnout is described as having 50% plus approval.

 

[Quartz]

And a large number of results arent even being counted till Friday. I hate this trend, pseudo-democracy should not be restricted to normal working hours.

I don't like the opening hours being so limited. It can make it difficult for those on the night shift to vote, because they're asleep or commuting during the day. Have them open for a full 24 hours say 07:00 Thurs to 07:00 Friday, then the count proceeds on Friday during the day. Actually, I'd like to see polling day and the Friday be public holidays. (Poll workers would obviously be compensated by having Mon & Tues off instead.) Vote on the Thursday, get plastered on Friday celebrating or commiserating, then recover on Sat / Sun.

 

[butchersapron]

I don't like the opening hours being so limited. It can make it difficult for those on the night shift to vote, because they're asleep or commuting during the day. Have them open for a full 24 hours say 07:00 Thurs to 07:00 Friday, then the count proceeds on Friday during the day. Actually, I'd like to see polling day and the Friday be public holidays. (Poll workers would obviously be compensated by having Mon & Tues off instead.) Vote on the Thursday, get plastered on Friday celebrating or commiserating, then recover on Sat / Sun.

He's on about result returns not voting hours.

 

[killer b]

I don't like the opening hours being so limited. It can make it difficult for those on the night shift to vote, because they're asleep or commuting during the day. Have them open for a full 24 hours say 07:00 Thurs to 07:00 Friday, then the count proceeds on Friday during the day. Actually, I'd like to see polling day and the Friday be public holidays. (Poll workers would obviously be compensated by having Mon & Tues off instead.) Vote on the Thursday, get plastered on Friday celebrating or commiserating, then recover on Sat / Sun.

fuck no. i hate a daytime count. overnight the day of the election, starting when polls close at 10 please.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't like the opening hours being so limited. It can make it difficult for those on the night shift to vote, because they're asleep or commuting during the day. Have them open for a full 24 hours say 07:00 Thurs to 07:00 Friday, then the count proceeds on Friday during the day. Actually, I'd like to see polling day and the Friday be public holidays. (Poll workers would obviously be compensated by having Mon & Tues off instead.) Vote on the Thursday, get plastered on Friday celebrating or commiserating, then recover on Sat / Sun.

so 15 hours not iyo long enough for the polls to be open.

 

[Quartz]

so 15 hours not iyo long enough for the polls to be open.

No: a 12 hour shift, plus a 90 minute commute (max mandated by DWP) each way is 15 hours. No time to vote there.

 

[butchersapron]

No: a 12 hour shift, plus a 90 minute commute (max mandated by DWP) each way is 15 hours. No time to vote there.

One of them non postal areas is it?

 

[Quartz]

One of them non postal areas is it?

You have to apply for a postal vote well in advance.

 

[shagnasty]

its sad that there will be no cgi landscapes and all night coverage of the count as it rolls in.

Only six Councils and one safe labour bye election to be called overnight

 

[butchersapron]

You have to apply for a postal vote well in advance.

So do so then?

 

[belboid]

You have to apply for a postal vote well in advance.

There aren't that many jobs with 12 hour shifts any more. And unless they are 8.30-20.30 then it wouldn't impinge upon such a worker anyway. If you are that 1/10000 person, then you'll probably know which of the two shifts you'll be doing well in advance, and if you don't, you just apply for a postal.

Really, not an issue.

 

[redsquirrel]

From the Guardian live Feed

Ukip could have up to 10 MPs after the next election and help to form a coalition in the event of another hung Parliament, says the party’s treasurer.
In an interview with the Telegraph, Stuart Wheeler, also a major donor to Ukip, claimed the party could hold the balance of power after the 2015 election and have a minister in a new coalition government.
He compared the rise of Ukip to the success of the Scottish National Party:

[T]he Scottish Nats came from virtually nowhere to have a majority in the Scottish Parliament. We could suddenly jump like anything. We may get none, or we could get a few or we could get a lot.​

Everyone would be very surprised if we got more than 10 [MPs] but you just can’t rule out us getting much more than that even. I am not forecasting that I am just saying it is a possibility.

Keep dreaming mate

 

[brogdale]

First hints coming through from political hacks on Twitter.

From @patrickwintour of the Guardian:

"Labour in South Shields says its vote share in mid-40s, UKIP reach 30 %, Tories fall from 21 % in 2010 to single figs. Libs obliterated."

Good if true, but those 'estimates' still leave 16% to play for; they can't all of gone to Elvis etc., can they?

 

[muscovyduck]

There aren't that many jobs with 12 hour shifts any more. And unless they are 8.30-20.30 then it wouldn't impinge upon such a worker anyway. If you are that 1/10000 person, then you'll probably know which of the two shifts you'll be doing well in advance, and if you don't, you just apply for a postal.

Really, not an issue.

Plenty of people I know (If they even manage to get a job) do twelve hours shifts, and when coupled with raising a family, thinking about voting can come well down the list.