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UhOhSeven said:
I don't have any polls to back me up on this assertion, but I doubt most voters cast their ballots in locals as though taking part in a General Election. For a start, turn-out would be significantly higher if they did.
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No, your right, in these, it's largely about councillors people know, I've just voted for the local LC, but only because he has an excellent track record , in a blind choice I would have preferred to vote Green.
 
LD's 6th or 7th in South Shields (BBC says 7th, Grauniad says 6th, neither of them putting any numbers up yet)

Live results from Lincolnshire (one of the few counties to be counting tonight) show LD vote down 20% on results so far in
 
South Shields (from Grauniad)

Emma Lewell-Buck (Lab) 12,493 (50.51%, -1.51%)
Richard Elvin (UKIP) 5,988 (24.21%)
Karen Allen (C) 2,857 (11.55%, -10.04%)
Ahmed Khan (Ind) 1,331 (5.38%)
Phil Brown (Ind Soc) 750 (3.03%)
Lady Dorothy MacBeth Brookes (BNP) 711 (2.87%, -3.65%)
Hugh Annand (LD) 352 (1.42%, -12.79%)
Howling Laud Hope (Loony) 197 (0.80%)
Thomas Darwood (Ind) 57 (0.23%)
Lab maj 6,505 (26.30%)
Electorate 62,979; Turnout 24,736 (39.28%, -18.42%)
 
belboid said:
Turnout in the South Shields byelection was 39.3%, South Tyneside council said. A Tory source predicts Labour would secure about 50% of the vote, with Ukip second, the Conservatives third and the Lib Dems set to lose their deposit, PA reports.

Farage claiming they've got 25% or more, 'mostly' ex-labour
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If that's correct, expect a sharp move to the right by labour.
 
treelover said:
If that's correct, expect a sharp move to the right by labour.
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Why? They won by a mile and with the wind in UKIP sails. They don't need to win UKIP votes nor do they need to win UKUIP votes - or at lest not loose them as much as the tories in swing seats in the south and midlands. You're in full on panic mode now, the opposite of left unity have recomposed the left. How about just making a reasoned analysis? You have to stop this.
 
Puddy_Tat said:
South Shields (from Grauniad)

Emma Lewell-Buck (Lab) 12,493 (50.51%, -1.51%)
Richard Elvin (UKIP) 5,988 (24.21%)
Karen Allen (C) 2,857 (11.55%, -10.04%)
Ahmed Khan (Ind) 1,331 (5.38%)
Phil Brown (Ind Soc) 750 (3.03%)
Lady Dorothy MacBeth Brookes (BNP) 711 (2.87%, -3.65%)
Hugh Annand (LD) 352 (1.42%, -12.79%)
Howling Laud Hope (Loony) 197 (0.80%)
Thomas Darwood (Ind) 57 (0.23%)
Lab maj 6,505 (26.30%)
Electorate 62,979; Turnout 24,736 (39.28%, -18.42%)
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Is she a real 'lady'
 
FFS, stop acting like the board policeman, its tantamount to bullying, this board could be a lot more popular if it wasn't for the high octane aggression.
 
It's bullying to even ask him a question (not that he would bring himself down to earth to answer any questions, engage in debate, recognise other people as people by replying to them, we're just cannon fodder, read my latest piece of why you are all shit).
 
treelover said:
If that's correct, expect a sharp move to the right by labour.
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killer b said:
Why?
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because in the last few decades, that's all labour has done. a good election result has been taken by the party leadership* to justify them having moved right, and a bad result (or only a close win) has been taken to indicate a need to move further right.

* using the term loosely

:(

I'd like to see labour set itself out as a real alternative, but can't see it happening.

Latest from Lincolnshire -

UKIP effect in Lincoln - broadly, labour gaining seats from tories, LD vote (previously 3rd place) evaporated, UKIP vote more than the labour majority. Obviously I can't tell where the lost LD / tory voters have gone, or where the UKIP / gained labour voters have come from...

Lincoln (although the parliamentary constituency is bigger than the city boundaries) is the sort of swing seat that tends to elect whatever shade of MP that wins the general election.
 
Puddy_Tat said:
because in the last few decades, that's all labour has done. a good election result has been taken by the party leadership* to justify them having moved right, and a bad result (or only a close win) has been taken to indicate a need to move further right.

* using the term loosely

:(

I'd like to see labour set itself out as a real alternative, but can't see it happening.

Latest from Lincolnshire -

UKIP effect in Lincoln - broadly, labour gaining seats from tories, LD vote (previously 3rd place) evaporated, UKIP vote more than the labour majority. Obviously I can't tell where the lost LD / tory voters have gone, or where the UKIP / gained labour voters have come from...

Lincoln (although the parliamentary constituency is bigger than the city boundaries) is the sort of swing seat that tends to elect whatever shade of MP that wins the general election.
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Labour exist to win seats. They do that by winning votes, Why would going hard right (what does this even mean?) do that?
 
butchersapron said:
Labour exist to win seats. They do that by winning votes, Why would going hard right (what does this even mean?) do that?
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it depends if they think they would do better by winning the votes of the people who have given up on the whole silly business, or the votes of the few thousand tory press reading floating voters in marginal constituencies.

i would really like to be wrong on this, but with the noises the labour party has made in the last year or so about (for example) benefits and immigration, I can't see it...
 
as an aside, I'm also mildly disappointed that the party (sort of) that's so far got 4 seats on Lincs County Council are "Lincolnshire Independents" not "Lincolnshire Independence" as I misunderstood it to be when a friend told me about them earlier today (they weren't on the radar when I lived there)

elbows said:
With 44 of 77 seats in Lincolnshire declared, UKIP have won 7.

Results for Lincolnshire on this site with a variety of graphics and stats, although I believe the number of seats won/lost has malfunctioned as at the time of writing it has the Tories on minus 42 :D

http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/loca...county-councillor/elections/election-results/
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It's bollocks - it's mathematically correct in that the tories had 60 seats before the election and (at the time of your post), know they have 18, but there's about 33 seats still to declare...
 
South Shields's new MP, a 34-year-old social worker, had been fed a laundry list of attack lines to use on the doorstep when a voter confessed they were thinking about voting Ukip. "Did you know [Ukip leader] Nigel Farage wants to decriminalise crack cocaine?" she would tell school-run mums. "Vote for Ukip and we'll lose thousands of jobs in South Tyneside," she informed dockers turned car manufacturers, fearful for their jobs at the Nissan plant.
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This is almost as bad as the lib-dems wanting to give the vote to paedos (which they do, it's the only manifesto pledge they are yet to renege on).
 
Reading that local elections board Butchers linked to, UKIP have won three of four (I think) seats in Boston, all candidates coming from same family.
 
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