England local election results thread

[treelover]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/colin-brewer-councillor-who-said-1868172

Just read that the odious Councillor, Colin Brewer, who said "disabled children should be put down" has been re-elected, shame on the scum who voted for him, its only one individual but imo it is an ominous development and to be deplored, I hope the other councillors walk out when he arrives in the chamber.

btw, the Mirror is doing some great reporting now about austerity, the benefit cuts, inequality, etc, if I liked celebs as well I would buy it..

 

[J Ed]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/colin-brewer-councillor-who-said-1868172

Just read that the odious Councillor, Colin Brewer, who said "disabled children should be put down" has been re-elected, shame on the scum who voted for him, its only one individual but imo it is an ominous development and to be deplored, I hope the other councillors walk out when he arrives in the chamber.

I'm just going to hope that most of the people didn't know what he said for the sake of my own sanity.

 

[treelover]

On BBC Spotlight South West this evening this individual was celebrating his victory and telling reporters that local voters knew he didn't mean it and that it was "just a wind-up". Good grief! Does this guy have any insight at all into how utterly moronic his public pronouncements are? What next?

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he really is a grade one twat, isn't he?

 

[J Ed]

These kippers all have the worst excuses for their behaviour, Falange needs to make creative writing class compulsory or something

 

[treelover]

I know I shouldn't say this but the patience of disabled people is really being tested, one can see someone, perhaps who may be terminal, taking matters into their own hands.

 

[treelover]

These kippers all have the worst excuses for their behaviour, Falange needs to make creative writing class compulsory or something

He is an independent

 

[J Ed]

I know I shouldn't say this but the patience of disabled people is really being tested, one can see someone, perhaps who may be terminal, taking matters into their own hands.

I think it's astonishing that nothing like that has happened yet with ATOS and/or the government.

 

[muscovyduck]

I think it's astonishing that nothing like that has happened yet with ATOS and/or the government.

There's been a few incidents.
There was the poor bloke who set himself alight outside Selly Oak Job Centre.

 

[Tom A]

There's been a few incidents.
There was the poor bloke who set himself alight outside Selly Oak Job Centre.

And the sporadic bit of direct action, such as blockading the DWP during the Paralympics. But it needs to be more than just the one-off incident though, a few leaves taken out of DAN's books from the early 90s wouldn't go amiss.

 

[muscovyduck]

And the sporadic bit of direct action, such as blockading the DWP during the Paralympics. But it needs to be more than just the one-off incident though, a few leaves taken out of DAN's books from the early 90s wouldn't go amiss.

What's DAN? What strategies has it/them/him got to offer?
I didn't actually exist in the early 90s, sorry

 

[JTG]

What's DAN? What strategies has it/them/him got to offer?
I didn't actually exist in the early 90s, sorry

 

[frogwoman]

I see surprisingly little discussion on the thread of the fact that hardly anyone actually bothered to vote in this election.

 

[frogwoman]

Turnout in my area was something like 27%.

 

[JTG]

True that. Bristol turn out was 27.5%, down from 38% or so four years ago

 

[Tom A]

What's DAN? What strategies has it/them/him got to offer?
I didn't actually exist in the early 90s, sorry

The Disabled People's Direct Action Network. The are the ones who are responsible for pretty much all buses today being wheelchair accessible (other than on a few minor routes), and partially responsible for ITV getting rid of their patronising Telethon, which portrayed disabled people as objects of pity, in continuous need of charity.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

I see surprisingly little discussion on the thread of the fact that hardly anyone actually bothered to vote in this election.

sadly nothing all that new - some data (up to and including the PCC elections) here

Average turnout in Surrey was about 30% (I've been following that more closely than others, since I don't have a county here, and a friend was standing in one seat)

Lincolnshire (also keeping an eye on that as I lived there) doesn't show actual turnout % figures, you have to work it out for yourself, seat by seat, but I'd say 30% seems about average there. I've found 19% in one Lincoln seat. I've not done this properly, but at initial glance, it looks as though the seats that went UKIP were mostly lower than average turnout.

 

[muscovyduck]

The Disabled People's Direct Action Network. The are the ones who are responsible for pretty much all buses today being wheelchair accessible (other than on a few minor routes), and partially responsible for ITV getting rid of their patronising Telethon, which portrayed disabled people as objects of pity, in continuous need of charity.

Oh they've been discussed (on a different thread probably) before haven't they? I didn't make the connection.

 

[JimW]

So what's the news on my prediction of a Labour landslide in Essex?

 

[Delroy Booth]

I for one , despite my differences with the revo left , would be delighted socialist type candidates were doing well. But the fact is they are not and Delroys post is just simply self deluded optimistic straw grabbing.

No you wouldn't. You're far more interesting in seeing Socialist type candidates losing badly so you can gloat and sneer for your own amusement, and possibly because every time someone on the left fails it's hailed as a vindication of the "IWCA approach" which, in case you didn't notice on the other thread, has been "on hold" for the last 7 years. That's why you went to such effort to portray the Doncaster result as terrible, which is a respectable result for a fringe left-wing group and much better than the usual terrible TUSC results were used to, when actually its about par i reckon. That's desperate. Where you expecting them to win or something?

Notice as well I'm not saying it's a great result, it's a respectable result, it's the sort of vote that they ought to aiming for consistently as a building block.

And you can comb through my posts and threads and discussions on the matter, you won't find any evidence of me being any kind of hardened TUSC fanboy. I've no time for TUSC or the SP these days I've been through that revolving door personally but I certainly won't let my own bitterness blind me to ackowledging the few times they actually do ok. Their results have been terrible pretty much everywhere they've ever stood and you'll get no argument from me on any of that, but this isn't one of them, so sorry you'll have to satiate your bitterness with other shitty TUSC results (and there's no shortage of them so have it at)

 

[CNT36]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/colin-brewer-councillor-who-said-1868172

Just read that the odious Councillor, Colin Brewer, who said "disabled children should be put down" has been re-elected, shame on the scum who voted for him, its only one individual but imo it is an ominous development and to be deplored, I hope the other councillors walk out when he arrives in the chamber.

btw, the Mirror is doing some great reporting now about austerity, the benefit cuts, inequality, etc, if I liked celebs as well I would buy it..

Some great reaction too. A councillor was elected by 4 votes with a small turnout. Lets boycott the town http://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...782724177042&_mn_=5&relevant_count=1&refid=17 Sorry about the Facebook link I couldn't find it on their proper site.

 

[The39thStep]

No you wouldn't. You're far more interesting in seeing Socialist type candidates losing badly so you can gloat and sneer for your own amusement, and possibly because every time someone on the left fails it's hailed as a vindication of the "IWCA approach" which, in case you didn't notice on the other thread, has been "on hold" for the last 7 years. That's why you went to such effort to portray the Doncaster result as terrible, which is a respectable result for a fringe left-wing group and much better than the usual terrible TUSC results were used to, when actually its about par i reckon. That's desperate. Where you expecting them to win or something?

Notice as well I'm not saying it's a great result, it's a respectable result, it's the sort of vote that they ought to aiming for consistently as a building block.

And you can comb through my posts and threads and discussions on the matter, you won't find any evidence of me being any kind of hardened TUSC fanboy. I've no time for TUSC or the SP these days I've been through that revolving door personally but I certainly won't let my own bitterness blind me to ackowledging the few times they actually do ok. Their results have been terrible pretty much everywhere they've ever stood and you'll get no argument from me on any of that, but this isn't one of them, so sorry you'll have to satiate your bitterness with other shitty TUSC results (and there's no shortage of them so have it at)

Desperate part 2 .

You keep your hopes up that the TUSC result is a building block whilst I watch the last bit of the football.

 

[Delroy Booth]

Desperate part 2 .

You keep your hopes up that the TUSC result is a building block whilst I watch the last bit of the football.

You're a fool, I never said that it was a building block, and I certainly haven't got my hopes up (LOL). shall we go through it a word at a time?

it's the sort of vote that they ought to aiming for consistently as a building block.

Why lie? Can't you argue and debate honestly? Is it beyond you? Or are you just a dishonest person in general?

It's the sort of result that they should be considering standard if the strategy they espouse was going to get anywhere. Respectable. Decent. Par. That's just my observation. If they could repeat the doncaster performance across the board, which imo they're actually capable of given the resources and organisation they have, then TUSC might go somewhere. But they can't, and they won't, and I'll be the first to say so. Now an interesting discussion might be why they can't, and why they won't, but that's not a discussion you're likely to contribute anything worthwhile to, is it?

My season's finished so I'll reply right away. Any chance you could reply with something more substantial that one word dismisalls and outright lies aimed at me personally? Or is that the level you operate on?

 

[muscovyduck]

Desperate part 2 .

You keep your hopes up that the TUSC result is a building block whilst I watch the last bit of the football.

Seriously, if you don't care then just go and watch football. What are you actually doing hanging around on the thread if you're so not bothered?

 

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Some great reaction too. A councillor was elected by 4 votes with a small turnout. Lets boycott the town http://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...782724177042&_mn_=5&relevant_count=1&refid=17 Sorry about the Facebook link I couldn't find it on their proper site.

we forced him out once, we can do it again

 

[ymu]

Even if he predictions were right they would not tell us much. What matters is comparison to 2009, as you go on to do,not to April 2013 projections.

Its like saying if Bayern lose the european cup final that they have had a bad season because they were favorites to win it in April.

The Labour popular vote is 10% down on 2009.

I agree. It's an appalling performance.

 

[Delroy Booth]

Seriously, if you don't care then just go and watch football. What are you actually doing hanging around on the thread if you're so not bothered?

Because he's a fucking crank perhaps?

 

[butchersapron]

Labour popular vote is projected to be 7% up on 2009. 22% vs 29%.

 

[sihhi]

The Labour popular vote is 10% down on 2009.

I agree. It's an appalling performance.

Labour popular vote is projected to be 7% up on 2009. 22% vs 29%.

Can somebody please set the record straight?

I have paid little attention to stats but I have it that:
Labour is winning back the Lib Dem votes who no longer like the Lib Dems
& UKIP is winning some non-voters and some Tories - strong correlation by class as to which kind of vote.

Making UKIP not dissimilar from European populism like Swiss People's Party, Ataka, Freedom Party of Austria, Five Star, Swedish Democrats, Holland's Party for Freedom and others.
and Labour not dissimilar from big social democratic parties in the core of Western Europe that can bounce back even after defeats (Socialist Party in France, Dutch Labour Party, SPD in Germany).

 

[where to]

Looks like a mash up of arable farming and retirement maps..

the arable farms propped up by EU subsidies. never understand that one.

 

[treelover]

don't want to start the thread, but Sky News is reporting Nigel Evans MP, and deputy speaker has been arrested on suspicion of rape and sexual assault.

I wonder what UKIP will do..