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DUP and Tory f*ck up thread

J Ed said:
The DUP do seem to have fantastic negotiating skills, did Arlene Foster threaten to kneecap May's husband or something?
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"There you go feller, you'll not be able to take the bins out for a wee while now"
 
...erm and if the vermin need another vote in Middlesbrough South in General Election 2017 2.0, £1bn just about overcomes my scruples. Just.
 
maomao said:
The other thing is that all evidence so far suggests that the Tory bigwigs, particularly May, are completely shit at negotiating.
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Agreed. If she'd "very well then,alone!d" this, 'her no deal better than a bad deal'on Brexit might have looked more credible
 
planetgeli said:
A billion? A fucking billion???

Brexit is going to go like a dream isn't it?

Ah well, I'm sure some of it will go on some of that greener energy stuff the DUP are keen on.
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That's an extra billion for all of Northern Ireland isn't it? That's quite well done from the DUP's perspective... not only for themselves as a party, but for all the NI people both protestant and catholic right? Do the DUP deserve a pat on the back from Northern Ireland as a region or will this somehow only be of benefit to the DUPs protestant supporters? If the former than well-played.
 
camouflage said:
That's an extra billion for all of Northern Ireland isn't it? That's quite well done from the DUP's perspective... not only for themselves as a party, but for all the NI people both protestant and catholic right? Do the DUP deserve a pat on the back from Northern Ireland as a region or will this somehow only be of benefit to the DUPs protestant supporters? If the former than well-played.
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It's beside the point whether the money will be spent in sectarian fashion or not (though with such a massive amount, and the north of Ireland's inability to allocate previous funds, it's not too difficult to imagine money 'going awry'). Point is it shows May's inability to negotiate with Brexit coming up and the iniquitous nature of a deal done for the benefit to the Tories of just 10 votes. Can Wales have an extra billion quid? Scotland? Why not?

A bribe's a fucking bribe.
 
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camouflage said:
That's an extra billion for all of Northern Ireland isn't it? That's quite well done from the DUP's perspective... not only for themselves as a party, but for all the NI people both protestant and catholic right? Do the DUP deserve a pat on the back from Northern Ireland as a region or will this somehow only be of benefit to the DUPs protestant supporters? If the former than well-played.
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The only thing they've done well is to illustrate the weakness and desperation of the vermin.
 
camouflage said:
That's an extra billion for all of Northern Ireland isn't it? That's quite well done from the DUP's perspective... not only for themselves as a party, but for all the NI people both protestant and catholic right? Do the DUP deserve a pat on the back from Northern Ireland as a region or will this somehow only be of benefit to the DUPs protestant supporters? If the former than well-played.
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pallets. they'l spend it on more pallets
 
So I see that Wales and Scotland are up in arms about NI getting extra money (and fair enough) but actually those who get way the least public funding per head are the English (and I think specifically the non London English). And NI already had the largest amount of funding per head. Not sure how the Tories are going to get away with this politically - every time there is some sort of minor crisis and calls for extra funding Labour will be able to point out they were able to find it for Northern Ireland to prop May up. They already lost strong and stable, now they lose magic money tree too.
 
camouflage said:
That's an extra billion for all of Northern Ireland isn't it? That's quite well done from the DUP's perspective... not only for themselves as a party, but for all the NI people both protestant and catholic right? Do the DUP deserve a pat on the back from Northern Ireland as a region or will this somehow only be of benefit to the DUPs protestant supporters? If the former than well-played.
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That'd be like applauding Savile's charity work, now.
 
planetgeli said:
It's beside the point whether the money will be spent in sectarian fashion or not (though with such a massive amount, and the north of Ireland's inability to allocate previous funds, it's not too difficult to imagine money 'going awry'). Point is it shows May's inability to negotiate with Brexit coming up and the iniquitous nature of a deal done for the benefit to the Tories of just 10 votes. Can Wales have an extra billion quid? Scotland? Why not?

A bribe's a fucking bribe.
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Well I did say from the DUPs point of view. As far as May the Tories and the rest of Britain are concerned of course we all agree it's an epic fuck-up.
 
Streathamite said:
I'm taking a positive from this; it's also a ticking PR time-bomb. There's absolutely no way you can disguise it being a bribe, made out of desperation. It was difficult for them to look even worse than they did before. But somehow, that's exactly what they've done.
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As Einstein said, the difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.
 
lazythursday said:
So I see that Wales and Scotland are up in arms about NI getting extra money (and fair enough) but actually those who get way the least public funding per head are the English (and I think specifically the non London English). And NI already had the largest amount of funding per head. Not sure how the Tories are going to get away with this politically - every time there is some sort of minor crisis and calls for extra funding Labour will be able to point out they were able to find it for Northern Ireland to prop May up. They already lost strong and stable, now they lose magic money tree too.
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(((magic money tree)))
 
lazythursday said:
but actually those who get way the least public funding per head are the English (and I think specifically the non London English).
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I'd like to see funding analysed relative to income levels and deprivation, as there is surely a case that funding is of greater importance to those below a certain income level (a point to which, I think, you allude, and which is skewed in England's case by parts of London and the South East.) The whole notion of basing analysis of and public point scoring around funding on national/geographical grounds comes across as both divisive and a distraction from the need and utility of government spending.
 
Poi E said:
I'd like to see funding analysed relative to income levels and deprivation, as there is surely a case that funding is of greater importance to those below a certain income level (a point to which, I think, you allude, and which is skewed in England's case by parts of London and the South East.) The whole notion of basing analysis of and public point scoring around funding on national/geographical grounds comes across as both divisive and a distraction from the need and utility of government spending.
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Of course under New Labour for all its faults, all sorts of different funding streams were linked to the Indices of Multiple Deprivation, a formula ripped up by the Tories/Lib Dems in favour of a simple population approach, hence why public sector cuts have been so much worse in poorer areas. I take your point about not basing these arguments on geography, plenty of poverty in London etc, but it's undeniable that whole geographic areas of the country get a raw deal at the moment.
 
elbows said:
Yeah, the tories were so fucking smug when they thought they had struck gold with the 'magic money tree' bullshit during the election. Well not only did it fail them at the polling booth, the phrase also seems to be coming back to haunt them just as you referenced.

There's no magic money tree - unless you're making a deal with the DUP

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Excellent graphic, apart from the fact that it's £1bn of extra funding over the next two 2 years, not £1.5bn.

If this fucked-up arrangement carries on beyond 2 years, I suspect the figure will be far greater than £1.5b TBH.
 
camouflage said:
That's an extra billion for all of Northern Ireland isn't it? That's quite well done from the DUP's perspective... not only for themselves as a party, but for all the NI people both protestant and catholic right? Do the DUP deserve a pat on the back from Northern Ireland as a region or will this somehow only be of benefit to the DUPs protestant supporters? If the former than well-played.
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The DUP are saying the loot is for everybody but I think you'll see a disproportionate amount getting spent in the NE which is mostly already better developed and is where the Prod majorities are. Middle Class Catholics who often work in the public sector will do very nicely out of it. It's what usually happens. SF are not nearly as sleekit when it comes to the pork barrel as the DUP at least that is what SDLP supporters say. It'll be more slanted if SF remain absent of course and their RC communities are unrepresented.

It's a bit rich that the part of the UK that has just had a scandal with wasting half a billion quid gets the windfall because the person most responsible, Arlene, ends up with a bumbling British PM begging for her help. Maybe God is a Free Presbyterian after all.
 
Poi E said:
Luck of the Irish.
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