Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[Johnny Canuck3]

That's naive, cr. Being a reality tv star is a double-edged thing and probably works against him. Does he look presidential? Does he fuck. That will matter to wavering voters.

I think CR is right. I think Trump will clean the floor with Clinton in a debate. He destroyed all the Republican contenders in the earlier debates.

He knows how to do tv in a way that the politicians don't.

 

[Yossarian]

I think you'd be very wrong to underestimate him . The mans a buffoon but not a fool . He won't even remotely be playing by the same rules as Clinton . He can go way off reservation as and when it suits him .hes the king of the put down . Furthermore he has personality, charisma, he's show biz . Clinton is dour and unlikable . On tv that's important . It's how Kennedy beat Nixon . And remember he's a reality tv star , a tv personality who'll be putting on a performance . A performance against someone who comes across pretty badly on tv and who even shies away from press conferences .
Trump has now also had loads of experience debating " serious " politicians like her . And beating them hands down . she has zero experience debating a " politician " like Trump .

And on top of all that not only has he got tonnes of muck he can throw her way she's just one coughing fit, one extended toilet break or one google eyed facial fit away from chucking the whole thing . And maybe even fainting .

Yep, it could certainly go very badly for Clinton - I'm not sure if the whole reality show schtick is going to carry Trump through the presidential debates though, he would absolutely cream her if this was Celebrity Apprentice or something but these kinds of debates are not his specialty.

Trump didn't really do that amazingly well in the Republican debates - he tended to get some good one-liners in early on then fade away as things progressed. He still ended up looking good because he was the standout on a crowded stage full of assorted freakish Republican creatures like Ted Cruz, most of which were afraid to attack him.

He might not look so good when the spotlight is restricted to him and Clinton - he keeps repeating slogans like "build the wall" over and over again, he's inconsistent, he tells lots of easily disprovable lies, and he really doesn't seem to have any idea what he's talking about when it comes to basic stuff like the powers of the presidency. And it probably isn't going to help that he will be the oldest person to take part in a presidential debate who won't be addressed as "Mr. President."

Debate slip-ups ended up destroying the candidacies of Rick Perry and Marco Rubio - might not be anything so dramatic this time but I wouldn't bet against Clinton winning on points.

 

[J Ed]

 

[Casually Red]

I read somewhere one of the Trump strategies will simply be to just let Clinton drone on, let her talk . She's so fucking annoying and unlikable shell turn people off by herself .

According to numerous reports Clinton is taking it all very seriously, locking herself away endlessly studying and practising. Role playing, surrounding herself with all manner of experts .Trump barely even bothering to prepare in comparison.


If I was him I'd have a little pretend cough every now and then . Plant the seed. There'll be no ad breaks or anything like that . If she starts coughing again it'll go out live .

It's also estimated the US populace will be glued to the debate in massive numbers . The Trump camp however are insisting it's going to be pretty boring, no fireworks . I suppose we'll see .

The Cuban invitation would indicate a Clinton strategy will be to try and get under Trumps skin. That may well be a fatal error . If Trump doesn't bite it comes across as not just nasty but a failure. And if he does bite the fact is he's simply a hell of a lot better at getting down and dirty . The Flowers invitation is an example of how he can respond to wind ups .

Also Clinton has demanded a little stool thing to stand on because she's much tinier than Trump . Request denied by organisers who say they'll provide her with a suitably sized lectern .

Crooked little Hillary .

She has tiny legs while Trumps hands are massive .

Sad !!

 

[Casually Red]

Polls are pretty much calling it a dead heat between Trump and Clinton at this point .
Outcome of this debate will be quite interesting .

 

[phillm]

Big night tonight Poldark,Victoria,X-Factor 6 Chair Challenge (Groups) and Trump v Clinton ....

 

[DotCommunist]

I bet uncle vlad has mixed sweet n salt the sick freak

 

[Idris2002]

I bet uncle vlad has mixed sweet n salt the sick freak

Proud Gopnik folkway.

 

[J Ed]

Big night tonight Poldark,Victoria,X-Factor 6 Chair Challenge (Groups) and Trump v Clinton ....

The debate is Monday night.

 

[8den]

I think CR is right. I think Trump will clean the floor with Clinton in a debate. He destroyed all the Republican contenders in the earlier debates.

He knows how to do tv in a way that the politicians don't.

No he didn't do great in the debates, often he had quite low energy and didn't get a polling bump afterwards. The candidates in the republican field were pretty dismal, and finally theres a MASSIVE difference between debating someone one on one, and then the 17 man and one witch clusterfuck that was the republican debate.

 

[J Ed]

No he didn't do great in the debates, often he had quite low energy and didn't get a polling bump afterwards. The candidates in the republican field were pretty dismal, and finally theres a MASSIVE difference between debating someone one on one, and then the 17 man and one witch clusterfuck that was the republican debate.

Witch?

 

[two sheds]

I think he means Cruz, witch and shape-shifter.

 

[J Ed]

 

[Casually Red]

I think he means Cruz, witch and shape-shifter.

I think he meant Fiorina , the sole female candidate .

Yup .

 

[two sheds]

could have gone either way

 

[Casually Red]

Nope . He specifically referred to the male gender of the non witches . He definitely meant Fiorina .

And the same disingenuous little cunt would be shrieking about misogyny if you said it about Clinton . With more than a few hypocrites piling in to support him with snide little likes etc . Snootily lecturing.

They won't open their gubs when he does it though .

 

[8den]

Witch?

Carly Fiorina? Prolife hatstand who shitcanned thousands of people when she worked for HP?

 

[Casually Red]

Hypocrites

Right, now he's gotten completely away with it I'm going Matthew Hopkins on Killarys ass . I don't want to hear a fucking peep out of anyone.

 

[8den]

Nope . He specifically referred to the male gender of the non witches . He definitely meant Fiorina .

And the same disingenuous little cunt would be shrieking about misogyny if you said it about Clinton . With more than a few hypocrites piling in to support him with snide little likes etc . Snootily lecturing.

They won't open their gubs when he does it though .

The entire platform Floirina ran on was based on lies about the Planned Parent video Pro lifers were circulating. The rhetoric was directly involved in the mass shooting at Colorado planned parenthood clinic. I think witch is the politest thing I can call her.
Fiorina snaps at CNN host after he ties her to Planned Parenthood shooting

CR you suggested Clinton would trigger world war three because of her "hot flashes" there's no equivalence between us

 

[Casually Red]

The entire platform Floirina ran on was based on lies about the Planned Parent video Pro lifers were circulating. The rhetoric was directly involved in the mass shooting at Colorado planned parenthood clinic. I think witch is the politest thing I can call her.
Fiorina snaps at CNN host after he ties her to Planned Parenthood shooting

CR you suggested Clinton would trigger world war three because of her "hot flashes" there's no equivalence between us

Behold your dark mistress

 

[DotCommunist]

I've been reminded of this because both candidates for the throne of skulls have shiny eyes and it got me sus. It is of course mental fiction stuff from the 60s but I'll plonk it here anyway cos sunday is borng as fuck:

He was, in fact, characteristic of the best type of dominant male in the world at this time. He was fifty-five years old, tough, shrewd, unburdened by the complicated ethical ambiguities which puzzle intellectuals, and had long ago decided that the world was a mean son-of-a-bitch in which only the most cunning and ruthless can survive. He was also as kind as was possible for one holding that ultra-Darwinian philosophy; and he genuinely loved children and dogs, unless they were on the site of something that had to be bombed in the National Interest. He still retained some sense of humor, despite the burdens of his almost godly office, and, although he had been impotent with his wife for nearly ten years now, he generally achieved orgasm in the mouth of a skilled prostitute within 1.5 minutes. He took amphetamine pep pills to keep going on his grueling twenty-hour day, with the result that his vision of the world was somewhat skewed in a paranoid direction, and he took tranquilizers to keep from worrying too much, with the result that his detachment sometimes bordered on the schizophrenic; but most of the time his innate shrewdness gave him a fingernail grip on reality. In short, he was much like the rulers of America and Russia.

from that bonkers Illuminatus! trilogy

 

[8den]

Behold your dark mistress

Kinda proving my point here. If there are any women on this thread who object to my choice of language, I'll cheerfully change it.

 

[8den]

I've been reminded of this because both candidates for the throne of skulls have shiny eyes and it got me sus. It is of course mental fiction stuff from the 60s but I'll plonk it here anyway cos sunday is borng as fuck:



from that bonkers Illuminatus! trilogy

I've not read it in years. Has it held up?

 

[Casually Red]

Kinda proving my point here. If there are any women on this thread who object to my choice of language, I'll cheerfully change it.

For starters your post was sexist whether or not a woman or a man complains about it . They shouldnt have to . That's also patronising as well as sexist .

And secondly too late .

 

[DotCommunist]

I've not read it in years. Has it held up?

last read it way back in 2006 I think, bits stuck with me though, read it quite a few times. It stands up if you just take it as a counterculture shaggy dog story. Theres lots of allusions and pisstakes in there. Telemachus Sneezed as the random pisstake of Atlas Shrugged for instance.

 

[J Ed]

 

[8den]

last read it way back in 2006 I think, bits stuck with me though, read it quite a few times. It stands up if you just take it as a counterculture shaggy dog story. Theres lots of allusions and pisstakes in there. Telemachus Sneezed as the random pisstake of Atlas Shrugged for instance.

I read it last in my early 20s i imagine a lot of references went over my head, but I'm wondering if the book isn't too much a stoner shaggy dog tale for me.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Hypocrites

Right, now he's gotten completely away with it I'm going Matthew Hopkins on Killarys ass . I don't want to hear a fucking peep out of anyone.

We saw what he said. We saw you use the phrase "Attilla the Hen" as well.

 

[DrRingDing]

So, thats what minted psychopaths decor looks like. Sweet Jesus.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

For starters your post was sexist whether or not a woman or a man complains about it . They shouldnt have to . That's also patronising as well as sexist .

And secondly too late .