Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

[8ball]

Sainsbury's, Iceland, and probably all the others currently stock rabbit meat.

Looks like Sainsbury’s stuff is a mixture of UK and EU - Iceland’s is from Hungary.

Tesco don’t seem to be doing rabbit right now.

Not making any kind of point, just found that interesting.

 

[8ball]

Rabbit is a national dish in Malta.

You’d think they’d have cooked it better.

 

[Spymaster]

Looks like Sainsbury’s stuff is a mixture of UK and EU - Iceland’s is from Hungary.

Makes sense. A quick Google suggests that rabbit farming in the UK is still quite small scale and seems to be confined to smallholdings, in the main.

 

[Spymaster]

You’d think they’d have cooked it better.

They call it fenec and it's a popular take-away dish there. Most times that I've had it, it has been quite chewy, as OB says.

 

[8ball]

Makes sense. A quick Google suggests that rabbit farming in the UK is still quite small scale and seems to be confined to smallholdings, in the main.

Also, I think the small-scale UK production is a mixture of people directly supplying the products of pest control to a close-knit number of consumers, and a mixture of that and farmed produce going to high-end restaurants.

 

[8ball]

They call it fenec and it's a popular take-away dish there. Most times that I've had it, it has been quite chewy, as OB says.

Guess that’s how they like it.

For those who have ddraig on ignore, it’s pretty identical to a cat once you’ve skinned it.

(Just guessing he was about to point that out)

 

[ddraig]

Guess that’s how they like it.

For those who don’t have ddraig on ignore, it’s pretty identical to a cat once you’ve skinned it.

(Just guessing he was about to point that out)

what relevance does this post have to what i've posted and why then have you tagged me?
the carnists have taken over again and now happily discussing rabbit, why tag me?

e2a why would i be about to point that out and why the pathetic winky smiley

 

[8ball]

what relevance does this post have to what i've posted and why then have you tagged me?
the carnists have taken over again and now happily discussing rabbit, why tag me?

Hey, bud, it wasn’t me that first brought up the subject of cutting up cats!

 

[Spymaster]

I thought it was considered common courtesy to tag posters you mention.

 

[Spymaster]

Hey, bud, it wasn’t me that first brought up the subject of cutting up cats!

Or kicking them to death

 

[8ball]

I thought it was considered common courtesy to tag posters you mention.

I dunno, I bring up his finest moment on this thread and this is what I get.

 

[ddraig]

I thought it was considered common courtesy to tag posters you mention.

when it's actually relevant and not baiting/point scoring

 

[ddraig]

I dunno, I bring up his finest moment on this thread and this is what I get.

get a new hobby ffs

 

[8ball]

get a new hobby ffs

Oh, come now.

You know it will come up again in the ‘best posts of the year’ thread.

You’ve carved your niche in Urban lore. Revel in it!

 

[Spymaster]

get a new hobby ffs

It was one of the funniest things I've seen on the boards and definitely the most amusing post you have ever made!

 

[8ball]

It was one of the funniest things I've seen on the boards and definitely the most amusing post you have ever made!

Obviously we’ve collectively agreed that no conclusions about vegans in general can be made from this.

 

[Yossarian]

Certainly is (delicious, I mean, not odd). Though I was very conflicted as a kid when my Dad brought a freshly-shot one home.

I remember a lot of people saying Watership Down had a big effect on whether they would eat rabbit (of my generation, anyway).

Demand still outstrips what we produce here, though. According to (rough) estimates, it is mostly imported.

As of a few years ago, demand was increasing, but I can’t immediately find anything more current.

I know you might see rabbit in upscale or exotic restaurants and occasionally in supermarkets, but I don't get the impression that many people who don't shoot their own eat it on a regular basis - it's like pigeon, if you were making dinner for a lot of people, you probably wouldn't serve it because there'd probably be a large proportion of people saying "hell, no."

Apparently most of the rabbit sold in Britain comes from factory farms in France and Italy that are exceptionally grim even by the standards of factory farms so it's just as well people don't eat it that much, IMO.

 

[8ball]

I certainly wouldn’t try to feed a lot of people with a pigeon. For a while I took two woodpigeons to school for lunch each day. I was in a growing phase but you wouldn’t feed many without a lot of them.

Tbf there was a massive ‘yuk factor’ from the other pupils. Even growing up in a rural area you get a lot of that. Those pigeons had a way better life than the chickens and cows they were chowing down on, though.

Don’t think I ever had a rabbit that wasn’t shot by someone I know either.

Edit: Except from Skomer when I was really little, but that’s cos you didn’t even have to shoot them.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I certainly wouldn’t try to feed a lot of people with a pigeon. For a while I took two woodpigeons to school for lunch each day. I was in a growing phase but you wouldn’t feed many without a lot of them.

Tbf there was a massive ‘yuk factor’ from the other pupils. Even growing up in a rural area you get a lot of that. Those pigeons had a way better life than the chickens and cows they were chowing down on, though.

Don’t think I ever had a rabbit that wasn’t shot by someone I know either.

Edit: Except from Skomer when I was really little, but that’s cos you didn’t even have to shoot them.

People often have a yuk factor towards novel food items. And particularly children. That's not such a shock. And in the case of pigeons, I doubt it's because they thought they were too cute to eat.

 

[8ball]

People often have a yuk factor towards novel food items. And particularly children. That's not such a shock. And in the case of pigeons, I doubt it's because they thought they were too cute to eat.

We never had the kind of feral pigeons you get in cities there, though. They got especially weird about me digging shotgun pellets out of the things.

Some of them were also funny about fish, even the ones who lived right by the coast. The alienation over where food comes from was well underway from the 70s.

Chips, beans and sausages was the order of the day. If I brought a crab in you’d think I was eating someone’s hamster.

No idea what they thought sausages and burgers were made of...

 

[8ball]

But yeah, I get where you’re coming from with kids and new food items. I was fussy as fuck for a while. This was more of a social reinforcement thing than normal fussiness, though.

Got a load of stick in primary school because I wouldn’t eat chips or beans. That didn’t leave much..

Edit: think maybe there were mushy peas. The E102 kind. Didn’t like them either.

 

[Opera Buffa]

Rabbit is a national dish in Malta.

That's why I ate it!

 

[PaoloSanchez]

I know you might see rabbit in upscale or exotic restaurants and occasionally in supermarkets, but I don't get the impression that many people who don't shoot their own eat it on a regular basis - it's like pigeon, if you were making dinner for a lot of people, you probably wouldn't serve it because there'd probably be a large proportion of people saying "hell, no."

Apparently most of the rabbit sold in Britain comes from factory farms in France and Italy that are exceptionally grim even by the standards of factory farms so it's just as well people don't eat it that much, IMO.

Most (> 80%) of the meat sold in Britain, be it rabbit, chicken, pigs or cows are the products of the "farmageddon" factory farms, and yet so many meat eaters claim to be eating "happy meat". Most of them are fucking liars.



Apparently it is not the meat eaters themselves that are to blame for this rather sad state of affairs, it's the fault of angry Grauniad reading vegans.

 

[8ball]

Apparently it is not the meat eaters themselves that are to blame for this rather sad state of affairs, it's the fault of angry Grauniad reading vegans.

Oh, do go on.

Enlighten me as to why this is apparently the fault of Guardian-reading vegans.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

Well apparently, according to some of your triggered dead animal eating peers, if vegans weren't so nasty and objectionable then perhaps more meat eaters might be persuaded to reduce their demand for dead animal flesh. It's a bit like the defiant NRA "from my cold dead hands" stance. If only vegans would agree that killing animals unnecessarily was ok, then everything would be fine. Bloody extremists.

 

[DotCommunist]

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You don't see it on the menu much, true

not an incredible flavour to it. Its good in a stew.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

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[Spymaster]

not an incredible flavour to it. Its good in a stew.

Yep. Best prepared á la jugged hare.

Originally the animals blood was added in to thicken it towards the end of cooking but obviously unless you shoot or trap your own, you'll not have the blood available so flour is the obvious alternative.

Rules in Covent Garden usually have traditional rabbit dishes on the menu.

 

[NoXion]

Well apparently, according to some of your triggered dead animal eating peers, if vegans weren't so nasty and objectionable then perhaps more meat eaters might be persuaded to reduce their demand for dead animal flesh. It's a bit like the defiant NRA "from my cold dead hands" stance. If only vegans would agree that killing animals unnecessarily was ok, then everything would be fine. Bloody extremists.

As I stated way back near the beginning of this thread, the snotty attitudes of certain vegans has nothing to do with why I'm not vegan. Can't say I recall anyone else saying otherwise, although doubtless you'll be along to refresh our memories with a quote. Right?

 

[cupid_stunt]

People often have a yuk factor towards novel food items. And particularly children.

Yep, there's certainly a yuk factor when it comes to eating kids.