Disgusted by a culture of entitlement? Nurses should be leftwing?

[Greebo]

Well?

Here's that thread I promised.

 

[Fruitloop]

wut

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Is this something to do with RNs who can't zip it?

 

[Greebo]

Is this something to do with RNs who can't zip it?

Possibly.

 

[Frankie Jack]

Youngish relative of mine that's a nurse posted up the pic on farceboakthat states..
"If you smoke, drink and have tattoos you don't need benefits"

 

[Blagsta]

There's a mean individualist streak in some of my fellow nursing students. It appears to be changing somewhat though in the 2nd year as we specialise in our mental health group and look at social models of mental health.

 

[geminisnake]

Youngish relative of mine that's a nurse posted up the pic on farceboakthat states..
"If you smoke, drink and have tattoos you don't need benefits"

Did you ask for an explanation of the thinking behind that?? Think I would have had to.
WTF have tattoos got to do with anything?? They don't have an adverse affect on your health/ability to get a job/life, etc afaik

 

[Edie]

Did you ask for an explanation of the thinking behind that?? Think I would have had to.
WTF have tattoos got to do with anything?? They don't have an adverse affect on your health/ability to get a job/life, etc afaik

They are expensive. Think that's prob what he means.

 

[Edie]

Mind you the left don't have a monopoly on compassion do they.

 

[dennisr]

yes

 

[Edie]

yes

The fuck? Are you joking?!

 

[Puddy_Tat]

I guess I've missed something, so this will have to do

 

[Firky]

12 hour shifts in A&E inside a city hospital probably turns even the pinkiest pinko.

A Liberal is just a tory who hasn't been mugged and all that jazz.

 

[Frankie Jack]

Did you ask for an explanation of the thinking behind that?? Think I would have had to.
WTF have tattoos got to do with anything?? They don't have an adverse affect on your health/ability to get a job/life, etc afaik

I did gem as she herself smokes, drinks has tattoos and claims Child Tax Credits, and Rent/CT allowance to top up her wages. Seems she meant the unemployed, sick and disabled though. Not those 'nice deserving benefit claimants'

 

[weepiper]

I did gem as she herself smokes, drinks has tattoos and claims Child Tax Credits, and Rent/CT allowance to top up her wages. Seems she meant the unemployed, sick and disabled though. Not those 'nice deserving benefit claimants'

 

[Pickman's model]

Mind you the left don't have a monopoly on compassion do they.

not at all. it's just people on the right like to give their compassion to people of eg the same race, nationality, religion

 

[Edie]

not at all. it's just people on the right like to give their compassion to people of eg the same race, nationality, religion

Dunno. Take a look at philanthropy figures.

 

[Pickman's model]

Dunno. Take a look at philanthropy figures.

please, let's not confuse philanthropy and compassion

 

[Edie]

please, let's not confuse philanthropy and compassion

Nah I'm just saying, if you look at the amounts people give to charity then a lot of people who you think wouldn't have any compassion obviously do. Ok they might have a lot more money to start with (and there's that parable about the old woman and the shilling and the temple etc) but... a lot of good comes from people who have a serious amount of money. And they tend to be right wing.

 

[Firky]

a lot of good comes from people who have a serious amount of money. And they tend to be right wing.

Got anything to back that up with? It goes against a lot of research I have read on the subject. I'd like to see some proof, it is something that I find interesting.

Attitudes of the selfless: Explaining political orientation with altruism



http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886909004607

Abstract

Previous research on political orientations, which can be understood as one’s left- versus right-wing attitude, has shown that some personality factors yield explanatory power. In the current work, we consider the role of altruism – a personality construct which does not exclusively map onto one of the broad personality dimensions typically studied. Altruism was predicted to relate to left-wing attitudes due to an overlap regarding concerns for social equality, and a discrepancy between well-known attributes of right-wingers and altruistic individuals, respectively. Moreover, altruism was expected to explain unique variance in political orientation beyond the ‘Big Six’ broad dimensions as it relates to aspects not covered by the latter. Both hypotheses were tested in a web-based questionnaire study (N = 137). Besides replicating findings of previous research, results corroborated a strong positive association between altruism and left-wing attitudes, and altruism was found to account for substantial variance in political orientation after controlling for the HEXACO factors of personality. We conclude that altruism is an important construct which deserves attention whenever political attitudes or other topics relating to social equality are at stake.

 

[treelover]

yes

maybe on a macro level, eg supporting causes, etc wanting a better world and fighting for it, but there are a few well known left wingers and other activists over the years who in terms of personal kindness/altruism are seriously deficient, some are very nasty indeed....

 

[geminisnake]

I did gem as she herself smokes, drinks has tattoos and claims Child Tax Credits, and Rent/CT allowance to top up her wages. Seems she meant the unemployed, sick and disabled though. Not those 'nice deserving benefit claimants'

Tbh family or not I think I'd be blocking those posts!! I got some of my tats when I and hubby were both working. They don't magically disappear just coz your job does!!

 

[Edie]

Got anything to back that up with? It goes against a lot of research I have read on the subject. I'd like to see some proof, it is something that I find interesting.

Attitudes of the selfless: Explaining political orientation with altruism



http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886909004607

Nah, nothing to back it up whatsoever tbf! I was just thinking of all those people like Gates and hedge fund managers and Angelina Jolie that give millions to charity.

 

[Geri]

Nah, nothing to back it up whatsoever tbf! I was just thinking of all those people like Gates and hedge fund managers and Angelina Jolie that give millions to charity.

They give millions because they have millions. Proportionately poorer people give more to charity.

 

[Firky]

Lord Armstrong sold his guns to both sides, he then spent a lot of the profits building soup kitchens, parks, hospitals, orphanages and such around Newcastle. He said, "God loveth a cheerful giver." Basically he was buying his way into heaven. Gates et al are doing the 21st century equivalent.

Most acts of charity come from poorer people. You just don't hear about it because they are not famous for being rich.

 

[JHE]

maybe on a macro level, eg supporting causes, etc wanting a better world and fighting for it, but there are a few well known left wingers and other activists over the years who in terms of personal kindness/altruism are seriously deficient, some are very nasty indeed....

Yes, there's no simple relationship between political opinion and character. There are kind and unkind people in all parties and in all segments of the political spectrum.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

I used to work for a charity and the chair of the trustees was definitely Tory, but he worked tirelessly for nothing and we discovered, used to work as a voluntary hospital porter well into his eighties (he was brisk and spry) but he didn't shout about it. I can't remember how we discovered it, he certainly didn't tell us. Some of the most bigoted and mean-spirited people I've met have been left-wingers.
I think it's a stupid and crass generalisation to say that nurses are left-wingers, or indeed that any profession is more of one political persuasion than another. The world is far more complex than that.

 

[weepiper]

One of the greatest philanthropists of all time Andrew Carnegie (he of the libraries) had some fairly left-wing views about wealth

Man does not live by bread alone. I have known millionaires starving for lack of the nutriment which alone can sustain all that is human in man, and I know workmen, and many so-called poor men, who revel in luxuries beyond the power of those millionaires to reach. It is the mind that makes the body rich. There is no class so pitiably wretched as that which possesses money and nothing else. Money can only be the useful drudge of things immeasurably higher than itself. Exalted beyond this, as it sometimes is, it remains Caliban still and still plays the beast. My aspirations take a higher flight. Mine be it to have contributed to the enlightenment and the joys of the mind, to the things of the spirit, to all that tends to bring into the lives of the toilers of Pittsburgh sweetness and light. I hold this the noblest possible use of wealth

A man who dies rich dies disgraced.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

They give millions because they have millions. Proportionately poorer people give more to charity.

I know that to be true.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Nah, nothing to back it up whatsoever tbf! I was just thinking of all those people like Gates and hedge fund managers and Angelina Jolie that give millions to charity.

"Hey, but what about those statistics that would support my wafer-thin argument, even though I am unaware of the location,nature or content of those statistics?"