BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Fingers crossed.Nice little earner for the government in fines then?
Fingers crossed.Nice little earner for the government in fines then?
You could but what would be the point of it?Where can I sign up to be a nihilist?
anyone with opinions like that is simply parroting shite they found on the internet and therefore by no means a free thinker.Fucks sake, fuming.
At work today and overheard 2 dental nurses (share an area with them) talking about how covid is all a fake etc etc. Knew it wasn't a good idea but couldn't help myself so interrupted with a jokey, 'Oh talking conspiracy theories?' Got a 'It's not conspiracy, I'm thinking for myself' as a retort from one of them.
Followed up with a heated exchange where they both went on about it being just flu/fake/vaccines killing people/and similar incoherent nonsense. Summary after answering their every point with a correction was 'Well I have my opinions and I'm a free thinker' and I a bit told them it was depressing they worked in healthcare and couldn't tell fact from made-up bollocks. This is fucking depressing, I share a workspace in a medical service with them, and they're giving advice to patients daily.
Can you imagine the size of the "our global pandemic plan to enslave our minions" WhatsApp group would be?anyone with opinions like that is simply parroting shite they found on the internet and therefore by no means a free thinker.
not to mention how, with everything else governments fuck up, did they manage to cobble together a pandemic like this? if i thought governments could manage this sort of thing then there might be some use in having them as they could - presumably - get more positive things done well too.
I think you just did.Where can I sign up to be a nihilist?
Either thick as pigshit, or ill, sometimes bothI love it when they sneer at main stream media because they are all part of the plan. I love that. Its my favorite.
Brain dead. Honestly.
Fucks sake, fuming.
At work today and overheard 2 dental nurses (share an area with them) talking about how covid is all a fake etc etc. Knew it wasn't a good idea but couldn't help myself so interrupted with a jokey, 'Oh talking conspiracy theories?' Got a 'It's not conspiracy, I'm thinking for myself' as a retort from one of them.
Followed up with a heated exchange where they both went on about it being just flu/fake/vaccines killing people/and similar incoherent nonsense. Summary after answering their every point with a correction was 'Well I have my opinions and I'm a free thinker' and I a bit told them it was depressing they worked in healthcare and couldn't tell fact from made-up bollocks. This is fucking depressing, I share a workspace in a medical service with them, and they're giving advice to patients daily.
I've had this kind of thing several times and I'm seriously considering whistleblowing / making a safeguarding issue out of it next time. I've had enough of hearing this shit at work and I'm beginning to think it needs coming down hard on, in a healthcare context.
Perhaps something along the lines of "You know, I hope that you're not expressing those views to patients as professionals..." might be sufficient of a warning shot. And it doesn't require an answer, so you can just wave off the justifications.Yeah, it did cross my mind to report it, but I just can't see a good outcome from that. I think work (and people) would just struggle to know how to deal with it. And I see them every week so it'd be horrible. Plus reporting at work would rarely feel justified. It still disturbs me how widespread this stuff is, and makes me feel a bit despairing for a much wider range of stuff than just this. I do wonder if they might have been surprised to be challenged, I heard them muttering. I guess if you live with someone into this or your social circle are tolerant/agreeable to it, and mostly get your news from FB etc. that you could easily have never heard anything else.
Perhaps something along the lines of "You know, I hope that you're not expressing those views to patients as professionals..." might be sufficient of a warning shot. And it doesn't require an answer, so you can just wave off the justifications.
I think that would have been the best reaction frankly.Yeah, I said something like that, and left as they started to edge towards the 'secret cabals of controlling elites' phase. It was that or pick the computer up and throw it at their heads screaming incoherently.
Guardian subheadline said:Who are the people who have come to follow wild conspiracy theories about Covid-19?
Its a quick and slippery slope. Many have observed how it can quickly escalate from "its just the flu" to three weeks later "Obama harvests children".Yeah, I said something like that, and left as they started to edge towards the 'secret cabals of controlling elites' phase. It was that or pick the computer up and throw it at their heads screaming incoherently.
One of the firmware bugs which seems to lure people into conspiraloonery is that they often equate any kind of engagement - most definitely including disagreement - with the validity of their theories: "well, there must be something in it if people are getting so angry about me saying it". I have a friend-of-a-friend (no, really), who's all over the conspiraloonery, and I'm trying an experiment with him where, when he starts going on about it, I'm sort of pointedly off-hand. Which has resulted in him starting to say things like "I know you think this is all bonkers nonsense, but..."I need to develop better ways of dealing with it. I suspect not openly disagreeing so angrily, and then trying to get to the root of why they're unhappy, which I suspect with many of them is anger with the government, loss of work/income, or general cynicism with the 'establishment' or something that's more constructive and understandable than the 'it's just flu/fake/5G vaccine' stuff that's often just the surface level shit they come out with. I think if I'd had a longer time and more patience I think I could have tried that last night. Well, think they'll be no shortage of practice about...
I would report the conversation to their employer. They are perfectly free to hold whatever view they wish. They are not free to express this view to their patients.Fucks sake, fuming.
At work today and overheard 2 dental nurses (share an area with them) talking about how covid is all a fake etc etc. Knew it wasn't a good idea but couldn't help myself so interrupted with a jokey, 'Oh talking conspiracy theories?' Got a 'It's not conspiracy, I'm thinking for myself' as a retort from one of them.
Followed up with a heated exchange where they both went on about it being just flu/fake/vaccines killing people/and similar incoherent nonsense. Summary after answering their every point with a correction was 'Well I have my opinions and I'm a free thinker' and I a bit told them it was depressing they worked in healthcare and couldn't tell fact from made-up bollocks. This is fucking depressing, I share a workspace in a medical service with them, and they're giving advice to patients daily.
I must say that my attitude towards the idiots has hardened. It has gone from concern for them, because they have been persuaded that something that is good is something harmful, to 'Oh well, if you die or suffer long term adverse effect, it is your own fucking fault'. Not terribly charitable but 'idiot overload' has kicked in.
You're only about 6 months behind me.