Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

[Badgers]

Today was my first day working at a vaccination centre. Drop in centre so no booking needed, my team dropped 1000 flyers round the location this week and I had 5 staff on the roads letting people know.

Had 57 people come in all day

Had to deal with several (two very aggressive) anti-vax-wankers but had a pair of volunteers from the local rugby club to keep an eye out

Some of the lies...

The vaccine makes your heart swell (off duty NHS worker)

Big companies are sacking their vaccinated staff as they know the vaccine causes cancer.

The vaccination caused me to have magnetic arms.

The vaccine depletes your bone marrow.

The vaccine destroys your ovaries.

There were others but these were the most grating.

 

[BillRiver]

Today was my first day working at a vaccination centre. Drop in centre so no booking needed, my team dropped 1000 flyers round the location this week and I had 5 staff on the roads letting people know.

Where is that, Badgers ?

 

[Badgers]

Where is that, Badgers ?

Luton

 

[BillRiver]

Luton

You have my sympathy.

I spent a day in Luton in 2018.

Never again.

 

[Badgers]

You have my sympathy.

I spent a day in Luton in 2018.

Never again.

Yeah I know

It is a bit shit but I kinda want to help

 

[elbows]

The vaccine makes your heart swell (off duty NHS worker)

That one does have a vague relationship to reality but its not how I would put it.

Pfizer and Moderna Covid-19 vaccines are linked to heart inflammation in rare instances, British health regulators have said, with doctors and patients warned to be alert for symptoms.

Pfizer and Moderna jabs linked to heart inflammation in rare cases

Vaccinated patients ‘should seek immediate medical attention’ if they get new chest pain or shortness of breath

www.independent.co.uk

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

Actually quite upset to see that a friend of mine (who I consider very intelligent and pleasant) is sharing stuff about the London protests and media silence and anti vaccine passports. She's Turkish and is drawing parallels with state run media silence when there were big anti government protests there. Feel so disappointed.

you can tell her that the protests were front page on the bbc news website yesterday. so there goes the media silence part, just because they were too insignificant to be on the TV news (then again I didn't watch those, so they might have been)

 

[MickiQ]

The vaccination caused me to have magnetic arms.

Well personally I would have preferred telekinesis or superspeed but the vaccination turning you into Magneto is pretty cool too, The only side effects any of the Q family have had is a day or two feeling grotty and a bit sleepy.
I reckon we've been swindled on the side effect front.

 

[BillRiver]

Yeah I know

It is a bit shit but I kinda want to help

Respect.

 

[Anju]

This is a good article to share if you come across any of the experimental vaccine people. The links are all pretty good as well, more on history of mRNA use in medicine and what proteins are and their function generally and specific to covid. Might help someone who hasn't fully committed to an alternative reality.

Will mRNA Technology Transform Medicine Beyond COVID-19?

 

[nogojones]

Today was my first day working at a vaccination centre. Drop in centre so no booking needed, my team dropped 1000 flyers round the location this week and I had 5 staff on the roads letting people know.

Had 57 people come in all day

Had to deal with several (two very aggressive) anti-vax-wankers but had a pair of volunteers from the local rugby club to keep an eye out

Some of the lies...

The vaccine makes your heart swell (off duty NHS worker)

Big companies are sacking their vaccinated staff as they know the vaccine causes cancer.

The vaccination caused me to have magnetic arms.

The vaccine depletes your bone marrow.

The vaccine destroys your ovaries.

There were others but these were the most grating.

But I want magnetic arms

 

[WouldBe]

But I want magnetic arms

Handy for picking up small screws / nails etc.

 

[StoneRoad]

But I want magnetic arms

But then you wouldn't be able to use a compass to navigate across the oceans !

 

[Johnny Doe]

you can tell her that the protests were front page on the bbc news website yesterday. so there goes the media silence part, just because they were too insignificant to be on the TV news (then again I didn't watch those, so they might have been)

I've given up providing links the coverage of every protest in every single mainstream media source in response to this claim. You either get no response or a moving a goalposts that the report is biased so doesn't count, or is undercounting the 2 million (yes, they claimed that) people there

 

[Combustible]

Sorry to spam this but this one's been referred to, too.

RETRACTED: The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations—We Should Rethink the Policy

Background: COVID-19 vaccines have had expedited reviews without sufficient safety data. We wanted to compare risks and benefits. Method: We calculated the number needed to vaccinate (NNTV) from a large Israeli field study to prevent one death. We accessed the Adverse Drug Reactions (ADR)...

www.mdpi.com

MDPI journals have always been on the borderline between not particularly good, but legitimate journals, and scam/predatory journals.


In the case of this journal 'Vaccines', they do appear to have some legitimate academics on the editorial board, some of whom have subsequently resigned.

 

[two sheds]

That's really interesting, thank you. Three or four people in the local NextDoor have responded to the antivaxxer but I'll take a look at this and see if they've missed anything

 

[nogojones]

But then you wouldn't be able to use a compass to navigate across the oceans !

I'll live with that. I'll let someone else do the navigating. I'll be forced to lounge on deck drinking pimms.

I could fuck up all the hard drives at work whenever I fancied a skive though

 

[LDC]

Today was my first day working at a vaccination centre. Drop in centre so no booking needed, my team dropped 1000 flyers round the location this week and I had 5 staff on the roads letting people know.

Had 57 people come in all day

Had to deal with several (two very aggressive) anti-vax-wankers but had a pair of volunteers from the local rugby club to keep an eye out

Some of the lies...

The vaccine makes your heart swell (off duty NHS worker)

Big companies are sacking their vaccinated staff as they know the vaccine causes cancer.

The vaccination caused me to have magnetic arms.

The vaccine depletes your bone marrow.

The vaccine destroys your ovaries.

There were others but these were the most grating.

Sorry to hear that. I can't remember if I mentioned it elsewhere but the local vaccine bus that was done round here to try and reach people that wouldn't/couldn't go to a clinic was abandoned after one session after a bunch of people turned up and threw stuff at it, shouting murderers and anti-vax stuff at the staff. Really feels like the end of days sometimes.

 

[keybored]

MDPI journals have always been on the borderline between not particularly good, but legitimate journals, and scam/predatory journals.


In the case of this journal 'Vaccines', they do appear to have some legitimate academics on the editorial board, some of whom have subsequently resigned.

"Sees data+patterns where others don't."

I think that says it all really.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

But then you wouldn't be able to use a compass to navigate across the oceans !

I'll live with that. I'll let someone else do the navigating. I'll be forced to lounge on deck drinking pimms.

I could fuck up all the hard drives at work whenever I fancied a skive though

Might be an issue on a steel vessel too

 

[WouldBe]

But then you wouldn't be able to use a compass to navigate across the oceans !

You could just drop anchor, jump overboard and float to point north.

 

[WouldBe]

Might be an issue on a steel vessel too

Would stop you getting thrown around in rough weather.

 

[MickiQ]

MDPI journals have always been on the borderline between not particularly good, but legitimate journals, and scam/predatory journals.


In the case of this journal 'Vaccines', they do appear to have some legitimate academics on the editorial board, some of whom have subsequently resigned.

Having read that article the unavoidable conclusion is that not only does the average anti-vaxxer not understand science or medicine, they're not particularly hot at math either. Can't say I'm surprised be honest.

 

[Badgers]

Sorry to hear that. I can't remember if I mentioned it elsewhere but the local vaccine bus that was done round here to try and reach people that wouldn't/couldn't go to a clinic was abandoned after one session after a bunch of people turned up and threw stuff at it, shouting murderers and anti-vax stuff at the staff. Really feels like the end of days sometimes.

Does feel like we are swimming against the tide a lot of the time.

Just about to go mobile with testing my end so that should be a laugh :rolleyes

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Does feel like we are swimming against the tide a lot of the time.

Ultimately these twats are the losers here though aren't they. The vast majority of the population has just cracked on and got vaccinated and ignored them.

 

[Badgers]

Ultimately these twats are the losers here though aren't they. The vast majority of the population has just cracked on and got vaccinated and ignored them.

Yeah, I get that.

At the same time we are having to hire security to protect the staff.

 

[kalidarkone]

But I want magnetic arms

That's what I thought!

 

[cupid_stunt]

nogojones & kalidarkone, be careful of what you wish for!

Yeah, every time I open the cutlery draw, I turn into some sort of Edward Scissorhands.

 

[WouldBe]

nogojones & kalidarkone, be careful of what you wish for!

Could make handshakes difficult though either struggling to get your hands together or apart.

 

[hitmouse]

The vaccine makes your heart swell (off duty NHS worker)

Do you not remember the plot of How the Grinch Stole Christmas? They just gave him a shot of AZ and that sorted Whoville's problems right out.

Anyway, one of my housemates got his second jab today, he was just telling me about when my (vocally) anti-vax housemate appeared behind him and started up with "but it is not 100% effective..." Luckily my just-vaccinated housemate likes getting into big shouty arguments much more than I do, so I was able to pretty much leave them to it. There was one proper weird moment, after my other housemate had gone off to his room, when anti-vax housemate asked me "and you, you are still not planning to get it?" and seemed quite shocked to learn that I'd already had both shots, since he'd somehow managed to convince himself I shared his views on the subject.